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    Khemorex's Avatar
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    Khalindra Nela
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    also it seems that some people try to push others in theyre lil world :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    also it seems that some people try to push others in theyre lil world :P
    Asking people to do there best is pushing others? If you can't be asked to do certain things in any type of group content you shouldn't be doing it or do it with people who tolerate you such as friends or FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Asking people to do there best is pushing others? If you can't be asked to do certain things in any type of group content you shouldn't be doing it or do it with people who tolerate you such as friends or FC.
    Don't bother with this person at all, never replies on serious question and just seem to push away the real problems and then make them worse if they even try to ''solve them''.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Don't bother with this person at all, never replies on serious question and just seem to push away the real problems and then make them worse if they even try to ''solve them''.
    Translation: This person has a different opinion than mine so they must be a troll!

    You really need to take off your tin foil hat. If you want to "solve problems" as you put it, offer suggestions instead of always being so negative towards anyone who doesn't think like you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    Translation: This person has a different opinion than mine so they must be a troll!

    You really need to take off your tin foil hat. If you want to "solve problems" as you put it, offer suggestions instead of always being so negative towards anyone who doesn't think like you do.
    They never replied to my questions when I was being serious. In every single thread I asked them, they ran away with the tail betwen their legs, because they couldn't reply to the question. It must be hard to reply a simple question, when they are in denial. You just need to stop making up things, like in other threads you do to other people like myself. How boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    I don't DPS as a healer and I never toot my own horn (
    You don't need to heal as a DPS, that's fine. We all know those who try really hard are called anwyays, doubt you want people to call you the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    also it seems that some people try to push others in theyre lil world :P
    "A proposed solution for having players become better players."

    heal me at 99% and afk if you like, I actually don't care (in dungeons), but please don't tell me you aren't a bad healer if you do it.


    Anyway, with that out the way, my actual feedback on the idea is that I like it, in theory, but I am having trouble thinking about how it would actually be implemented for healer, as the job is very reactionary. A healer could heal more for example, if the tank doesn't use cooldowns, if people get hit by mechanics, and how fast the dps kill the mobs. The only sure thing to say about a good healer is A) nobody dies (well... that might not be the healers fault) and B) they are utilising every GCD to do whatever is deemed most important (whether that be healing or DPS), and those two things are hard to put into a formula like this.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 07-06-2016 at 01:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    "A proposed solution for having players become better players."

    heal me at 99% and afk if you like, I actually don't care (in dungeons), but please don't tell me you aren't a bad healer if you do it.
    I don't see where she said she heals you at 99% HP and afks.

    I do the same thing she does. That's how I like to play my game. Nobody is going to change that and I could give a crap less what random people on the internet call me for playing this game how I want (seriously). I like the OP's idea even though it would probably lower my incentive bonus. To me, a bonus is a bonus. If I get it in this game (before someone makes RL comparisons), cool. If not, I was fine without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    I don't see where she said she heals you at 99% HP and afks.

    I do the same thing she does. That's how I like to play my game. Nobody is going to change that and I could give a crap less what random people on the internet call me for playing this game how I want (seriously). I like the OP's idea even though it would probably lower my incentive bonus. To me, a bonus is a bonus. If I get it in this game (before someone makes RL comparisons), cool. If not, I was fine without it.
    Its not YOUR game its a game that you play a part in with MANY other people. Get it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Its not YOUR game its a game that you play a part in with MANY other people. Get it right.
    I bought it and pay the subscription. Could have fooled me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    I don't see where she said she heals you at 99% HP and afks.

    I do the same thing she does. That's how I like to play my game. Nobody is going to change that and I could give a crap less what random people on the internet call me for playing this game how I want (seriously). I like the OP's idea even though it would probably lower my incentive bonus. To me, a bonus is a bonus. If I get it in this game (before someone makes RL comparisons), cool. If not, I was fine without it.
    That's basically it. You can get the same amount of exp / tomes you always get by doing nothing but healing. You might even get a bonus doing that if the rest of your group is playing so poorly / taking so much damage that your healing contribution skyrockets. But to consistently get a bonus, you'd want to do what's optimal for the group. If you don't get a bonus or don't care about the bonus, no big deal. The proposal is after all just to motivate as many people as possible without punishing anyone for playstyle.
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