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    KeluBehemoth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodai View Post
    I wouldst even be kind enough to give it that much credit, when all new content comes out based off of much lower level gear than what is available from faceroll content the previous patch cycle. Makes you overpowered for everything.

    For your second point, there is zero reason to increase the power of tomestone gear because the content they release for non raiders doesn't require it. You dont need it for the content you're doing. Which is really the OP's original point, and mine.

    For your third point, it will when enough people complain about it. Even casuals are getting sick of the repetitive nature of the game. I'm willing to wait it out for a bit and see what happens in 4.0. If it doesn't get better I think I may just focus my energy in real life things. I've always wanted to try tournament fishing.
    Yup. I gotta agree with this. The "catch up" patches they release, make the casual content absolutely faceroll. I mean I don't raid any more because of the same reasons you list. Day 1 of patch cycle and I'm facerolling-leeroy jenkins the new dungeons. Casuals do not need gear that OP for the dungeons its ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    I was just pointing out that crafted gear won't make A8S gear (specifically weapons) completely worthless. Even then, a 5 iLvl means it won't be as big of a deal as it was in 3.2, when the Sephirot weapon was 10 iLvls above the Gordias weapon.



    Capable raiders can still ignore normal mode rather easily. If 3.2 is any indication, it won't be all that difficult to obtain the crafted gear, while still being on par with the normal mode gear.

    Also, raiding being less popular now has nothing to do with the gear rewards, but more with SE's mistake of making Gordias Savage ridiculously difficult. A3S killed off a lot of statics.
    Yeah... no... yeah... I don't care how hard it is, I'm not doing it if the rewards are pointless.
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth View Post
    Yup. I gotta agree with this. The "catch up" patches they release, make the casual content absolutely faceroll. I mean I don't raid any more because of the same reasons you list. Day 1 of patch cycle and I'm facerolling-leeroy jenkins the new dungeons. Casuals do not need gear that OP for the dungeons its ridiculous.
    Both you and the person you quoted seem to be misunderstanding the point of tomestone gear. It's designed for raiders who end up being unlucky with raid drops, an alternative way for them to get an upgrade outside of the RNG ones, so they don't end up with the possibility of getting nothing for several weeks. The fact that non-raiders can get this gear is a simple side-effect that also keeps plenty of non-raiders busy. (Which is the point of a P2P MMO, keeping your playerbase busy so they keep paying.)

    Quote Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth
    Yeah... no... yeah... I don't care how hard it is, I'm not doing it if the rewards are pointless.
    The 8-man raid rewards gear that's the absolute best for at least 3 months, following another 3 months where non-raiders can slowly upgrade their tomestone gear to the same iLvl (with the exception of the weapon).

    If you think half a year of having the best gear in the game is pointless, then that's fine. Perhaps raiding in this game isn't the thing for you.
    When I still raided, I didn't really care much for the gear upgrades, it was just a means to progress further. I just enjoyed raiding with a group of friends, because running content with them was fun to me. (Unfortunately, A3S killed that static)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    When I still raided, I didn't really care much for the gear upgrades, it was just a means to progress further. I just enjoyed raiding with a group of friends, because running content with them was fun to me. (Unfortunately, A3S killed that static)
    This is the truth for me too (except it was FC drama, lies, selfishness, and finger pointing that made me walk away from my then-FC static). I enjoyed the challenge and overcoming said challenge with friends, but let's not kid ourselves: to the victor goes the spoils, and we do want something nice for being the few that rise to the challenge. It's not about who deserves what better, but we all want a reward proportional for time and effort no?
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