Remove Aetherochemical Research Facility from 60 Dungeon Roulette

[Ilan]

I run the roulette because I try to run all my roulettes every day. I run the roulette because it used to be fun to think, "I wonder if I'll get Pharos Sirius HM, or maybe the Anti-Tower." If I wanted Lore Tomestones, I'd run Hullbreaker or Sohr Khai. But I cap out Lore Tomestones easily just doing the Expert Roulette.

Right now, it's not fun to run Aetherochemical Research Facility. It's boring. The purpose of the Roulette has been subverted. There is no Roulette. It's like an 80% chance of getting Aetherochemical Research Facility. I don't want to take away people's ability to farm Eso's for their relics. Removing this one dungeon from the 60 Roulette and adding it to another Roulette wouldn't suddenly diminish the number of Eso's they get from running the dungeon. It just gives the rest of us the opportunity to enjoy the Roulette as it was designed to be.

You really don't understand how it works, right? This roulette doesn't rotate you in different dungeons every time, it puts you there where your class/job is NEEDED.

[Vexander]

You really don't understand how it works, right? This roulette doesn't rotate you in different dungeons every time, it puts you there where your class/job is NEEDED.

I do understand that. But in this case, demand is changing the need. It's making the Roulette stale, boring, and predictable. That's what I'm hoping to see changed.

[randysquirrel]

Removing this one dungeon from the 60 Roulette and adding it to another Roulette wouldn't suddenly diminish the number of Eso's they get from running the dungeon

They remove it and stick it in another roulette, suddenly every time you run that one it is always ARF. Return to forums and QQ again.
Others have pointed out, most have caught on the ARF is the quickest way to farm up esos, so even more people are queuing it right now than before.
You are right though, the thrill of "OMG will it be Anti Tower?! Will it be Pharos HM?!" sure was a high, the tension was palpable

Why do people post such dumb stuff on these forums

[Vexander]

There is another Roulette where it makes more sense to be, a Roulette with dungeons that don't drop loot. MSQ dungeons. Stick it in there. At least when queing for that, one would know they're going ARF. They could que for the 60 dungeons and actually get something other than ARF, a dungeon with a chance at loot. I suppose another alternative would be to add loot to ARF, but given how often it pops up, that's a bandaid solution.

[Ilan]

I do understand that. But in this case, demand is changing the need. It's making the Roulette stale, boring, and predictable. That's what I'm hoping to see changed.

It will change as soon the most people are done with their relic. Sorry but i don't see any reason for a drama in that. But if you have success with your "demand" than i want that toto rak vanishes out of the leveling roulette and neverreap vanishes out of the level 60 roulette too.

[Alistaire]

Can I get Dusk Vigil out of the levelling roulette too? As much as people hate certain other ones that one is so long, even with a good group you just can't get it done under 30 minutes.

Oh, and drop Hullbreaker HM out of Expert too, it's too easy to be called expert.

And titan hm from trial, but only when there's 3+ new people.

[Blanchimont]

This will remain a problem as long as there are dungeons that need to be completed as part of the story. Many people end up stuck there until they can find a group, resulting in more people ending up in those dungeons.

[SendohJin]

The purpose of the Roulette has been subverted.

No, it hasn't. The devs designed the roulette specifically so it will work that way.

[Nicobo]

TBH I only want to see ARF when queueing 60 roulette now....^^;
Actually if you get the previous expert dungeons which you ran daily, it will be more boring!

I think OP didn't know previously a lot of ppl would quit immediately when they got ARF, and affected the players needed to run it.
And why not moving it to MS roulette? It is because MS roulette is lv50 base.

[Sida]

The purpose of the roulette has never been to particularly offer variation in the runs it gives. The purpose of it is to offer pool of people to the DF who can fill in on runs people queue for specifically. The tome bonus it gives is a carrot for people to run it. If you run 60 roulette while not wanting eso I'm tempted to say you're doing it wrong.

For the record though, my past week 60 roulette runs have been 2 ACT and 5 everything else. I'd only be happier if I got ACT more, due the eso it gives. Can't please everyone.