Players Who Don't pull their weight.

[Taiine]

That's ridiculous and reportable at the same time. EX difficulty drops i215 gear, even being at 210 is considered overgeared for this instance since the minimum is 200.

In all situations, people need to be more sensible on what's to be expected out of people. I don't get how people can jump to the conclusion of being on the extreme of one side instead of making a reasonable judgement call in the middleground of putting/understanding the basic fundamentals of the game at level cap, and expecting savage-tier play otherwise.

One of my friends just ran into the very same tank I did on their expert, and they did the same thing to them. Friend posted screenies (un-cencered) on tumblr and a lot of people came forward stating they had the same kind of run in with the tank. Many reports were made but nothing has been done, the tanks still going. Now my friends thinking of unsubbing for good.




(edit to include 2nd screeny)

So just returning to the game and doing the MSQ is 'refusing to gear up'. (and yes they were reported by all in the party I'm told)

This is why I lved a tank class, to let players ENJOY THE GAME. New? Want to see the Cutscenes? GO RIGHT AHEAD! I'll stop and go over the boss's. Under geared? I'll do smaller pulls. Why ruin the game for people? The end isn't going anywhere. Gona rush just to afk in game anyway?

[Kaeoni]

And we need more of a reason why people shouldn't be able to Rate people? This didn't even happen to me and I want to un-subscribe... Some people are so disgusting...
I've recently come back to the game myself, I only have 200,210 gear and like... a few 230's. So he/she might as well have been saying that to me.

This persons ISP should revoke there Right to have contact with people on the net until they learn basic human interaction and how to treat people.

[Taiine]

And we need more of a reason why people shouldn't be able to Rate people? This didn't even happen to me and I want to un-subscribe... Some people are so disgusting...
I've recently come back to the game myself, I only have 200,210 gear and like... a few 230's. So he/she might as well have been saying that to me.

This persons ISP should revoke there Right to have contact with people on the net until they learn basic human interaction and how to treat people.

Heres the rest of that convo for you.



and them saying to gear using midas, my friend was also doing that. The issue is now that midas is free to roll, one person can get lucky and win all the drops. Before it was a 50/50 per run a week to get an item with 4 items dropping, with people passing on items they didn't want to not waste their weekly. Now it's 1 in 8 x 4 items for every run. I spammed midas myself for my 218 ninja for bolts as acc's are what I need. By the time I got one I had enough Lore for two, and I'm STILL 3 of 4 springs to getting pants sense Midas first came out. (not that I need it anymore for my main class's, but saving for an alt class anyho)

[Judge_Xero]

Not as dangerous as those speeding and not paying attention.

True. But still more dangerous than the young healthy guy doing the speed limit with complete focus as well as properly maintains his vehicle to make sure it is reliable. That is 120% quality driving right there.

[Archaell]

And we need more of a reason why people shouldn't be able to Rate people? This didn't even happen to me and I want to un-subscribe... Some people are so disgusting...
I've recently come back to the game myself, I only have 200,210 gear and like... a few 230's. So he/she might as well have been saying that to me.

This persons ISP should revoke there Right to have contact with people on the net until they learn basic human interaction and how to treat people.

Well as the community we can't tolerate this! We have to demand swift removal of the in-game chat to prevent any future issues because of this one and only guy! /end of sarcasm

This should be easily fixed with the report harassment option. If this guy hasn't been banned yet it shows certain problems in a different department.

[Taiine]

Well as the community we can't tolerate this! We have to demand swift removal of the in-game chat to prevent any future issues because of this one and only guy! /end of sarcasm

This should be easily fixed with the report harassment option. If this guy hasn't been banned yet it shows certain problems in a different department.

These screenshots were posted on tumblr with out the names hidden. Over 130 (edit 227 posts now and more people coming forward with their own stories) people liked, re-posted and commented (and the numbers still growing). A good number of them also stated they ran into the tank as well and they did the same thing and were reported.

One such person's recent encounter.


and yet another. and theres many more.


They can also be found on the forums bragging and harassing people. They make remarks how they don't care if there reported because SE wont do anything, and how there just in their remarks because anyone not in high ILV gear should not be running the runs that are there TO get said high lv gear and said people are just wasting their time wanting to be carried.

[LalafellDown]

One such person's recent encounter.


and yet another. and theres many more.

That's when you proceed to join the bard by putting on your i210 weapon.

[Cherie]

This thread's argument... is completely pointless.

I assume the OP raids and has a good raid static. Good on them. Why bother trying to instruct the people just getting by barely slogging through the farm content? By farm content I don't mean like, "oh it's so easy, I got such and such on farm now!" I mean, literal farm, like with a plow and a hoe because people are going and plucking carrots and cabbages here and you are talking about being a sniper with over 500 confirmed kills.

Even without Mr. Spec Ops professional mercenary here, they are going to farm their carrots and cabbages just fine and I'm sure you farm your savage content fine without them... Leave farmer Joe alone please. Sure he might go and accidentally kill himself while trying to pick carrots and you might know over 30 ways to kill a man with nothing but a carrot but both of you, when not around each other, manage to do both your jobs just fine. Farmer Joe might get 50x more carrot yield if you supply him with your chemical warfare tips for killing pesky insects that might be infesting his crops (that you normally use on enemy soldiers) but he eats just fine on 2-3 carrots a day without you. He's just going to get pissed at you for messing up his day and calling him out for being bad because he's happy with just 2-3 carrots.

Farmer Joe doesn't need help and he doesn't want help. Stop going to farms if the farmers there annoy you. Most of the people on this world have to be a farmer and few actually try do be anything more. I really wish there was more call and desire for people to be more for sure but I know few actually leave their farms so why do they need to learn to do more than be farmers.... You left the farm at 15 and went to be a solider in the army... Great! It's a noble profession to be sure. Believe me I wish there were more people that leave the farms so I could have more people to do stuff with too but... I can't force the world to change. I can only change myself.

[MihaelB]

Farmer Joe doesn't need help and he doesn't want help. Stop going to farms if the farmers there annoy you. I really wish there was more call and desire for people to be more for sure but I know few actually leave their farms so why do they need to learn to do more than be farmers.... You left the farm at 15 and went to be a solider in the army... Great! It's a noble profession to be sure. Believe me I wish there were more people that leave the farms so I could have more people to do stuff with too but... I can't force the world to change. I can only change myself.

The problem with this analogy is Farmer Joe is being placed in an area with Mr Spec Ops trying to achieve the same objective. Mr Spec Ops has put in hours of work and is carrying the team with 2 unknowns whilst Farmer Joe is being a lazy pig without any incentive to help the group.

People are advocating to be Farmer Joe's when they should be attempting to be like Mr Spec Ops.

Your analogy also breaks with Mr Spec Ops needing something that Farmer Joe needs for his Spec Op activities. Farmer Joe doesn't need X for his savage content, farmer Joe uses X for god knows why, Joe doesn't even DPS in dungeons. Mr Spec Ops has to run through multiple instances with multiple Farmer Joes daily just to continue being Mr Spec Ops.

[Mahri]

Pulling back the focus a bit, I'm a bit bewildered, because these bad experiences in DF aren't what I'd personally call "frequent" in my experience, and I've been playing steadily since 2.0 rolled out. Yeah, you get some poor attitudes, some clearly inexperienced players, and sometimes even a bit of overlap between the two, but they're the exception rather than the rule. Most people just want to get stuff done; not necessarily in the most efficient conceivable way, but the goal is the same.

So at this point, all that really should be said is: If these people complaining are really having frequent problems in the Duty Finder, the most common factor can be observed in the nearest mirror.

Attitude is everything. Improve yours, and I guarantee you'll have a better time on the whole.