Players Who Don't pull their weight.

[Kaeoni]

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I love those Ideas!

I think this type of thing which forces players to actively engage and deal with situations could really help, Especially If implemented and experienced while the player is still learning to enforce good habits!

Weren't you advocating positive approach to people in DF few pages back? And now you are condescending and mocking Sipherous for his ability to make friends? Calling him lazy and stuff? What if the dude has some social disorder and so his ability to make friends is limited?

I'll start with this. Highlighting the main word from that piece i wrote below.

As objectively as possible I read and think to myself...

I've said this 50 times it feels like... =/
If you're going to complain about other random people you have no control over. Then you'd probably have a more positive outlook on this game if you made your own groups. Is this false? If you're constantly complaining about other people in DF and you're distraught because of constantly being paired up with people who just aren't pulling their weight then is making your own group the wrong answer? MMOs are social experiences. Massive Multiplayer Online Game. If you don't understand that playing an MMO means you're Online, in a multiplayer environment... I dunno what else to say...

And for the record I'm not mocking anyone. Maybe it sounds like it from the way I type. But I'm pretty light hearted. I'm suggesting answers to questions. Answers that currently exist in the game right now. We have the ability to fix these problems. And If you choose not to fix them then yes. I apologize, but that is by definition lazy. And It's a shame because the amount of fun you could behaving right now at this very second could be easily multiplied. I have ADHD. Social anxiety comes with it. I don't take medication for it probably because I'm an idiot and I want to suffer with my problem. But I don't believe in taking medication for it because I want to overcome it even if it is something i'll have for the rest of my life. I give it everything I've got, every day. Most people don't have an excuse. But I don't use my problem as a crutch. I struggle desperately to better myself. and people see that and are receptive. Naturally you have to take my word for it. But at the end of the day I can sleep knowing what I did, at least by my own set of morals was right. I have 16 friends on my FL, a Free Company full of about 20 pretty active members, 2 Hunt LS's including an LS I made for people I like to talk to because /tells are annoying and full of RMT crap and It just clogs up my chat screen. haha. I mean I'm far below what I could have? I still do DF a lot of the time, but I usually take 2-3 people with me into everything cuz we like to hang out.

Telling individuals that they should stop using DF is not solution to anything... DF is for everybody meaning even for the people who complain on the forum and they have right to complain for being exploited by people who waste their time. There is absolutely no reason that DF should stay a feature only for the underperforming players. DF is part of the game, everyone is entitled to use it...

Yet not all the players should play together. The people do not work like that. There should seriously be something done about DF to improve it, at least more options when selecting the duty instead of just one tick. The Raid Finder with it's options to select phases and clear/training is a good step forward.

I didn't suggest people should stop using DF. I suggested it to people who are fed up. I can understand that. I really can. But is complaining going to do anything about it? And is there a way to free yourself from this pain currently in the game? Well... I'm sorry for saying for the 51st time... there is... Make your own groups....

What some people here have suggested, Is putting a little yellow star on peoples jackets letting everyone know who these people are. Because marginalization of a group of people has never proven a problem in the past right? An extreme example, I know... But As I've said in the past. We the players, and an autonomous system can't accurately and are not entitled to rating DF people based off 10-40 minutes of primarily non-verbal contact.