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    giantslayer's Avatar
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    Colette Pascal
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 70

    New right side gear: not worth it?

    The entire iron works right side will get you a whopping 8 more CP than the previous BiS. Caps on craftsmanship and control are a little higher, but it will take some really hardcore melding to make use of that. It's a lot of Gil for what seems to be very little stats.

    My 170 accessories are already melded with max CP, 7 control, and 6 craftsmanship. If I had cheaped out more on those melds, I might be more inclined to do the new stuff.

    I suppose we won't really know if these are needed until we see the new stat requirements. My strategy so far has been to try to max things as much as possible on the left side and spend the Gil on grade 5 for the guaranteed slots there where it has made sense.
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    Best tank guide ever! (Not mine but I am putting it in my sig because it is THAT awesome.)
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    Hermaeus Mora
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    Behemoth
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    As this is the final set for this game and we'll probably wait almost a year for the new "chimerical felt/hallowed chestnut" set, If you have a lot of money, it's definitely worth it. It's only takes one V overmeld.
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Well
    It depend if you want to work for it !

    It's a lot of work for supposedly not a huge benefrit
    But since CP is the main stat of Crafter....
    It kinda always worth it.
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    Well
    It depend if you want to work for it !

    It's a lot of work for supposedly not a huge benefrit
    But since CP is the main stat of Crafter....
    It kinda always worth it.
    Not if nothing you make comes even close to needing it. Which is the case, at least for now.
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    Rurulu Namilu
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    If I recall correctly, we needed 473 CP to put in an extra Precise Touch in some rotations before, but the CP cap with the old i170 crafted set and Seafood Stew HQ was 472 CP, just one CP short. With the new gear, we can achieve that CP threshold with max melded gear and HQ Baked Onion Soup or Seafood Stew (478 to 480 CP).

    More CP (and higher Craftsmanship) lets you craft a lot of recipes with just macros at the moment. The possibility of being able to use an extra Precise Touch/Basic Touch/Standard Touch/Innovation/Ingenuity II with more CP makes HQ crafting more reliable with less starting quality needed.
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    Last edited by lulunami; 07-03-2016 at 12:33 PM.
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    Renabi Rena
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    Bard Lv 90
    If you take into account that this new set is not specific to any single crafter class, you'd see that it's cheaper than buying gear for all of your crafting classes as well as being "better." I'm not deep enough into crafting to really make use of this set yet, but I'm planning on getting money and jumping straight into an HQ version of this set soon.
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    Blueberry Bandit
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    Phoenix
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    If you take into account that this new set is not specific to any single crafter class, you'd see that it's cheaper than buying gear for all of your crafting classes as well as being "better." I'm not deep enough into crafting to really make use of this set yet, but I'm planning on getting money and jumping straight into an HQ version of this set soon.
    All accessories are shared so it's technically a lot cheaper to get the i170 versions. But I'd say it's worth getting the Ironworks accessories since 4 stars will likely benefit from the extra CP. Plus, these won't be replaced for a whole year or so.
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    Aisha Nymph
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    it's worth it,can pop a cheap CP43 food whenever I want and reach 473 cp to use all the important rotations ( some with 2 x cp18 to spare )
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    Last edited by AishaNymph; 07-03-2016 at 10:30 PM.

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    Stouter Taru
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    The 170 set of accessories was only 13 CP over the dirt cheap starter accessories. 170 was a whole lot more expensive a month after they came out than the ironworks set is now. They were probably more expensive a couple weeks before 3.3 came out than ironworks are now.
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    Colette Pascal
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    The 170 set of accessories was only 13 CP over the dirt cheap starter accessories. 170 was a whole lot more expensive a month after they came out than the ironworks set is now. They were probably more expensive a couple weeks before 3.3 came out than ironworks are now.
    Just to be clear, I am not one bit concerned about the cost of making the item. I'm concerned about the cost of the melds. To do significantly better than what I already have melded into my 170 (8cp, 7 control, 6 crafts), I would be looking at over melding tier 5 material into slot #2 and/or melding tier 4 into slot #5.
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    How To Train Your Faerie
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/209109-How-To-Train-Your-Faerie-A-Comprehensive-Guide

    Best tank guide ever! (Not mine but I am putting it in my sig because it is THAT awesome.)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/228662-A-Visual-Guide-to-Tanking

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