I guess it's time

[Beetle]

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Yoshi said that they aren't willing to take that kinda risk to change the game. Whats gonna happen is the player that raid will all leave and they will get rid of savage to cater to there only player base. Kinda like what happened with XI Seekers of Adoulin, Players left for XIV and noone could do raids so they added NPC party members instead of fixing the main problem. (A better graphical FF has came out, its time for you to upgrade your graphics.)

[Iromi]

Yoshi said that they aren't willing to take that kinda risk to change the game. Whats gonna happen is the player that raid will all leave and they will get rid of savage to cater to there only player base. Kinda like what happened with XI Seekers of Adoulin, Players left for XIV and noone could do raids so they added NPC party members instead of fixing the main problem. (A better graphical FF has came out, its time for you to upgrade your graphics.)

Oh I am not sure which quote you quoted me in..but yes he says that a lot. Risk taking is not something we do much around here >.> I remember what happened in Seekers..that was not good. Like I said, I enjoyed XI but even I can admit it had its downfalls..for sure. ^^

[zosia]

Yoshi said that they aren't willing to take that kinda risk to change the game. Whats gonna happen is the player that raid will all leave and they will get rid of savage to cater to there only player base. Kinda like what happened with XI Seekers of Adoulin, Players left for XIV and noone could do raids so they added NPC party members instead of fixing the main problem. (A better graphical FF has came out, its time for you to upgrade your graphics.)

Final Fantasy: A lord of the rings online reborn!

I would bet money that raids, as we know them from 2.xx, will no longer be a thing sometime in 4.xx

I wonder how many times I said this game would turn into a AAA lotro.

[Iromi]

Final Fantasy: A lord of the rings online reborn!

I would bet money that raids, as we know them from 2.xx, will no longer be a thing sometime in 4.xx

I wonder how many times I said this game would turn into a AAA lotro.

Oh ya I've seen plenty of people say they feel the game is going in that direction. I agree. I played Lotro also and am getting a similar vibe..lol

After having 0 hype for 4.0 due to all the um..unfulfilled promises from 3.0 , can't say I really care. When 4.0 is released I will read the patch notes and decide if I am playing then :x

[Kerii]

...unfulfilled promises from 3.0...

I feel like the real problem with 3.0 is that they hyped it up too much. "We want players to feel like it's a whole new game." However, that choice of words didn't reflect what we got. We got a slightly better version of 2.0. What SE has a problem with right now is execution. They have lofty goals of what the game "should be", but they've stopped factoring how players really are, and that's killed the game this expansion. Maybe 4.0 will be better, maybe it won't. In either event, I believe many people have your attitude. "I'll wait and see what they do, and if I don't like it I'm gone." That is the right attitude to have, but maybe we, as a community, are setting the game up for a big failure if the developers can't get their execution right out of the gate for this one.

[Iromi]

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Yup, basically! They hyped it up too much and went way over the top..so when it came out it just didn't add up. That is the exact approach I am taking, maybe it will be good maybe not, and yeap...as of right now I am pretty uninterested in the direction the game is going so what more can I say If they hear us they hear us..if not then so be it!

Problem isn't just with hardcore its everything. What good is content if you complete 90% of the patch in 3 days and have nothing else to do for 3 months? Your suggestion is to unsub and play something else? Good idea.

Yeap, suggesting people to unsub is a great idea *sarcasm* haha. Eventually we will have no one left lol. Cuz as I said earlier..people unsub and they dont come back :x Once the influx of new people runs out (and it will) then we will see...I've already seen a steady decline in subs from the lucky bancho thing on reddit, not saying omagad gaem dying!!! But..last time he took it there a 100k drop, and even more so massive drop in who completed the story. Only 300k people completed the 3.2 story (I think that was last time he took it)

[vp_cmc]

Only 300k people completed the 3.2 story (I think that was last time he took it)

Actually, I've completed 3.2 story two days before 3.3. I don't really like reading those walls of text, and I had all 3.2 dungeons\trials unlocked without doing all 3.2 story to the end. Had to do it before 3.3 of course to not have my static wait for me for nidhogg.

[RiceisNice]

I feel like the real problem with 3.0 is that they hyped it up too much.

This is the big thing for me as well. With things like new jobs (in comparison to the fact that we got ninja during the 2.x series), MCH (and by the same context, BRD) feels like a shell-out of what htye had intially previewed. FC crafting is anything but, and in general the expansion itself hasn't set a lot of framework that allows for better implementation. Airship exploration has been beaten enough, we still don't have much of FC activties, and things like summoner glamours and GC rank expansions have been put in back burners for quite a while now (looking at 3.4 which is over half the expansion's timeframe)