Suggestions to make the game more alt friendly.

[Vexed]

This game was made to allow you to LEVEL every class, but it is not designed to allow you to gear and PLAY every class (at least not in raids. You can do the petty content like dungeons, since gear isn't even that important to victory there). You pretty much have to pick a main every major content patch and stick with it, to gear it up to be able to clear the newest raid content. If you are gearing two or more jobs at once, then you're shooting yourself in the foot, because you will not be as competitive as other players, assuming they're equally skilled but better geared because they focused on a single job while you wasted your lockouts on two+ different jobs. Weekly lockouts force you to either be gimp or play a single job. Of course, as a patch becomes old and stagnant, you have the time to gear up other jobs, but by then, you're already defined in your group as "the monk," or "the warrior." Your team composition is already set, for the most part, with a couple of swaps for certain fights.

What alts do is allow you to split your focus so that you can actually play and enjoy the other roles/jobs you wouldn't get to, otherwise, because you're stuck playing those one or two specific jobs every time. Alt A can level and gear up Paladin, doing its weekly lockout. Alt B can for some stupid reason, decide to be a dragoon (joking), and gear that up. Alt C can play scholar, cuz why would you want to heal when you can DPS and make the WHM or AST do it, instead (Joking again, unbunch your panties). This game was designed for alts, really, but instead punishes you for having them. It's not really any different than any other MMO that locks you to a single class per character, it just gives you more illusions of freedom.

Of course, a lot of people (myself included) level three crafting alts to 60 in everything so that they can craft absolutely anything (stupid crafting specialization). Again, another reason we should have more freedom with alts, because if you WANT to be the go-to crafter within your circle of friends, you have to play at least three different characters anyways. I get that they wanted the specialization to force people to only use three crafters, to promote more economic ties... But the serious crafters don't do it that way, anyways. The big timers all play three or more characters so they can specialize in everything, simply skirting around SE's restriction nonetheless. Of course, it's inconvenient because you have to either use a grand company chest to trade stuff between your alts or have a friend willing to trade back and forth for you.

[Greedalox]

Not quite what I was going for with that comment, but thanks for the condescending remark nonetheless.

How was that condescending? I was asking a question because I believe this game seriously couldn't be easier for the most part. If you want condescending I'd ask why you're being so sensitive lol.

[DamianFatale]

Why not release more player icons than just the Mentorship ones. What if there was an RP player icon that you could put on your name, or maybe in your search info. I would honestly prefer if it was in the search info. Perhaps it could say whether you RP or not. ^^

[Greedalox]

Why not release more player icons than just the Mentorship ones. What if there was an RP player icon that you could put on your name, or maybe in your search info. I would honestly prefer if it was in the search info. Perhaps it could say whether you RP or not. ^^

I quite like this idea. It'd have to be a limited amount though, as to not create a confusing overabundance.

[Souljacker]

Everything is handed to us. Don't know how much easier it can get.

How was that condescending? I was asking a question because I believe this game seriously couldn't be easier for the most part. If you want condescending I'd ask why you're being so sensitive lol.

Literally nothing about your remark could even remotely be construed as a question. It was a condescending comment designed to make it appear as though I'm asking for "ezmode" or something along those lines when in actuality, I was asking for more reasons to grind and work harder. I'd like to be able to gear up my three main jobs and would be more than happy to put in many more hours to make that happen, but this isn't a main-friendly game. I can really only work on BLM on any given patch and my friends are SOL when they need my warrior or white mage. They don't have the gear to work on any current content.

Most of the other folks in this thread understood exactly what I was saying, but you wanted an opportunity to make a mean remark and you took it. I hope it made you feel good.

[Greedalox]

Literally nothing about your remark could even remotely be construed as a question. It was a condescending comment designed to make it appear as though I'm asking for "ezmode" or something along those lines when in actuality, I was asking for more reasons to grind and work harder. I'd like to be able to gear up my three main jobs and would be more than happy to put in many more hours to make that happen, but this isn't a main-friendly game. I can really only work on BLM on any given patch and my friends are SOL when they need my warrior or white mage. They don't have the gear to work on any current content.

Most of the other folks in this thread understood exactly what I was saying, but you wanted an opportunity to make a mean remark and you took it. I hope it made you feel good.

You're so delicate, I actually am having trouble formulating a sentence that won't bruise your ego so I stopped trying. Not everyone will understand EXACTLY what you meant so I don't know why you'd assume everyone should/would, and sure it may not have been a question but I was still making a statement that I PERSONALLY feel contradicts what you said. If you want to take it as a personal attack, go for it. I'm not going to apologize to someone wanting to be a victim. I stand by what I said, this game tends to hand everything to us. All you said was that this game isn't easy for mains which is VERY open ended and non specific. So hey?

By making more specific claims instead of broad ones, people who may have thought you went a different route will have an easier time relating to what you're talking about and you won't have to get upset when someone possibly misinterprets the specifics of your general claim.

[Souljacker]

I suppose you could have approached it by actually asking a question or requesting clarification, but you chose to take a different route. You chose to take a route that was rude and condescending and I replied in kind. I'm sorry I did, because clearly it triggered you.

Here's a general tip for life. When someone says something and you aren't really sure what they mean by it, instead of making an assumption and writing out something that's completely off the mark, try asking what they mean first. You'll get a lot further in life with that attitude rather than the one you're displaying, I promise you.

[Greedalox]

I suppose you could have approached it by actually asking a question or requesting clarification, but you chose to take a different route. You chose to take a route that was rude and condescending and I replied in kind. I'm sorry I did, because clearly it triggered you.

Here's a general tip for life. When someone says something and you aren't really sure what they mean by it, instead of making an assumption and writing out something that's completely off the mark, try asking what they mean first. You'll get a lot further in life with that attitude rather than the one you're displaying, I promise you.

To be fair, I wasn't confused by your comment, mistaken at best. I thought you meant as a whole because your initial comment was VERY blanket. So I answered with a blanket statement that you deemed incorrect. You've made plenty of assumptions about me as well, so don't be silly.

"Honestly I would prefer they make the game more "main-friendly" first." I don't feel that ANYTHING said in those quotations marks directly pertains to you saying a very concise "This game doesn't let people fully gear multiple classes at the same time" considering nothing OP said was about that either and then going off about how I should have known better because someone responded to your broad statement with a broad response.

There was really no reason to question what you meant when your initial comment wasn't exactly vague, you just had poor choice of words if you wanted multi class gearing as the focal point.

Whatever though :3 a misunderstanding on both accounts. We'll live.

[Souljacker]

We'll live.

Indeed we will, and now that maintenance is done we can get the heck off the forums and back in the game!

{All Right!}

[Taiine]

Agree. I split myself between two characters. One for DPS/Tank (and crafter), and one for healer. I did this to save my poor inv from clutter. But also so I can gear the three rolls together. I'm not limited to buying one or two items a week for one class. I can buy it for two. If I feel like healing, I have a geared healer who can heal. if I feel like tanking, I have a geared tank for that too. If I feel like dpsing, it's being geared after drk.

I also like to RP. >.>

It would be nice if we could mail items, right now I use the FC chest. If there worried about gill spammers. Why not have a quest at 50 that unlocks it, and only allow mailing to other alts if they too have unlocked it? Or only let the one that unlocked it mail to others but the others can't mail back less they unlock it? Then you can send items to lower lv alts.

I would also like things like mounts and minions to be account wide. Even WoW has them account wide. If we earned it on one, we should get it on all.