Your thoughts on queuing in DF with languages you don't understand / speak.

[Lan_Mantear]

Ha, the Japanese don't like it though, there's an insanely long thread on the jp forum complaining about foreigners selecting jp when they queue.

Personally I don't have a problem with it for easy content, or content you are confident in. But I do hate it when people queue for difficult content/things they have never cleared and obviously have no idea what to do, and then cannot even understand explanations when people give them! It's selfish and wastes everyone's time.

This reminds me of the JPONRY comments from FFXI. That was annoying.

Intellectually, I agree with the OP. It's common courtesy to greet everyone at the start of an instance and to use the auto-translate function whenever possible. However, the seeming elitism of the JPONRY community annoys the hell out of me, and often times degenerates me to redneck mentality and causes me to purposely pretend to misunderstand even though I know full well what is being said. If for no other reason than to rattle their elitist cages.

Auto-translate works both ways. Don't expect me to kowtow, when you're not willing to do the same.

[Noxifer]

Auto-translate works both ways. Don't expect me to kowtow, when you're not willing to do the same.

Wait. You select a language in DF that you don't speak, and then expect the others to respect that and cater to your language skills?

after all, there are some players that don't speak any of the game's languages, but still enjoy to play. Should they avoid DF?

Um... if they don't understand any English, German, French or Japanese... what do they get out of the game? Those languages aren't only used in DF.
(And if they do understand at least one of them, just not well enough to speak it fluently, they can still communicate enough to say "My English is bad, but I try" or something like that. English used because AFAIK, it's the most common language to be taught in schools as a second (or third) language.)

[raela]

Um... if they don't understand any English, German, French or Japanese... what do they get out of the game? Those languages aren't only used in DF.
(And if they do understand at least one of them, just not well enough to speak it fluently, they can still communicate enough to say "My English is bad, but I try" or something like that. English used because AFAIK, it's the most common language to be taught in schools as a second (or third) language.)

Native speakers skip the story, too - some are here mostly for the gameplay. And just because it may be taught, doesn't mean people learn/remember. ;/ I haven't asked people why they'd play without speaking any of the offered languages, but I do see that they enjoy the game.

(Plus, it's much easier to learn to read than to write IMO.. Can remember what a word means when you see it, but not actually produce it yourself)