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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I'd rather our irl selves be left out of it, it seems overly sappy.

    I would be happily surprised if it turned out we are a part of zodiark, or our success is somehow going to bring about his return. In our own way we are a part of the arms race
    As someone said, if we really are a part of zodiark, then why would the Ascians want to kill something that is a part of him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    As someone said, if we really are a part of zodiark, then why would the Ascians want to kill something that is a part of him?
    Who says killing us destroys what they want? Or even that there is only one attribute of Zodiark's personality? the thing got sundered across a shattered reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    As someone said, if we really are a part of zodiark, then why would the Ascians want to kill something that is a part of him?
    Could be they don't know it either, or they think we'e been "corrupted" (enlightened?) by the Mothercrystal
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    As someone said, if we really are a part of zodiark, then why would the Ascians want to kill something that is a part of him?
    I posted it in another thread, but what if when Hydaelyn calls us her, 'Beloved Son/Daughter,' she means it literally? That we are her actual, direct offspring? If that's the case, who's the father? Zodiark? If so, does he even know? If he does, would he trust the Ascians with that knowledge? Maybe Elidibus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    I posted it in another thread, but what if when Hydaelyn calls us her, 'Beloved Son/Daughter,' she means it literally? That we are her actual, direct offspring? If that's the case, who's the father? Zodiark? If so, does he even know? If he does, would he trust the Ascians with that knowledge? Maybe Elidibus.
    And yet, we have the 7 Celestial Dragons, who *only* have a father (because dragons reproduce asexually)

    Daughter/Son doesn't have mean anything here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    And yet, we have the 7 Celestial Dragons, who *only* have a father (because dragons reproduce asexually)

    Daughter/Son doesn't have mean anything here.
    That's a fair point. Still, the DRK quests imply something else, a duality of sorts. If Hydaelyn is pure light, I don't think the WoL could -be- a Dark Knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    That's a fair point. Still, the DRK quests imply something else, a duality of sorts. If Hydaelyn is pure light, I don't think the WoL could -be- a Dark Knight.
    the darkness that DRK has no relation with zordiark.
    Think it as a inner beast.


    There is much complex situation of hydaelyn = light, zodiark = darkness.
    It doest mean that if zordiark banished, all darkness will banish too.

    I recomend you to read cilia's threads about DRK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Still, the DRK quests imply something else, a duality of sorts. If Hydaelyn is pure light, I don't think the WoL could -be- a Dark Knight.
    Not exactly?

    The darkness wielded by a Dark Knight is the darkness of their own heart, not that of Zodiark. More specifically, it's harnessing all the darker emotions you normally repress - rage, hate, battle lust, etc. - for a noble cause that is personally meaningful (that personal meaningfulness is very important - you can't utilize the full power of darkness without it). Compare to the Ascians, who use Zodiark's power for a cause they may believe in and enjoy but would carry out simply because it's their duty.

    It's a subtle difference, but clear as night and day if you can see it.

    ... of course, that's not to say the darkness within the hearts of men isn't because of Zodiark, as Ramuh seems to muse, or that Hydaelyn and Zodiark aren't sort of two halves of the same whole. Still, such musing is merely conjecture, and I'm not keen on that sort of thing.
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