Do healer need to help doing dps? Especially cleric stance?

[bounddreamer]

A healer is not required to ever DPS. Some people can get away with it and nobody will complain but if someone ever tells you that you have to or you're bad if you don't... they're wrong. I rarely ever DPS as a healer. If I want to DPS, i'll switch my stone from Sch to Smn. I play a healer to heal.

As a scholar I'd be so bored if I didn't dps in dungeons. I can't just stand there reapplying adlo while the fairy does most of the heals.

I had a scholar who seemed to be of your mentality in Sohr Khai the other day. Once I realized they were going to be a healbot I spent most of the run in deliverance and commed the excellent dragoon who'd gone all out, contributing to a nice quick run.

[Mattelot]

While that's exaggerating it dungeon running should never be about "will we make it?" but "will this be a 15 or 30+ minute run". I'd prefer the 15 minute runs considering how often I do them.

DPS was slow but not so slow that it doubled the duration of the dungeon. However, there was no exaggeration on what was said.

As far as not even replying to a request though? I'll take a 30-minute run if it means I get to boot someone acting like that.

I'm on PS4, it takes too long to type out an explanation to someone, especially when the tank is "go go go!" Besides, we're not required to talk to anybody. I will try my best to reply to comments that I deem worthy to respond to but I find no value in responding to every idiotic question or comment.

[Mattelot]

As a scholar I'd be so bored if I didn't dps in dungeons. I can't just stand there reapplying adlo while the fairy does most of the heals.

I had a scholar who seemed to be of your mentality in Sohr Khai the other day. Once I realized they were going to be a healbot I spent most of the run in deliverance and commed the excellent dragoon who'd gone all out, contributing to a nice quick run.

I've done the same thing multiple times before... where the Warrior tank stayed in Deliverance and we still blew through the dungeon. I don't mind at all, especially if it makes me work harder as a healer because that's why I play one to begin with.

[Jukebox12]

I love lightspeed gravity spam. Pretty much the useful thing in dungoens with alot of adds. Well start out small dps here and there but mostly healing then go big when you get the hang of the fight

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

This has been beating around like a dead horse that's been resurrected from the dead just to be beaten to death again for pure satisfaction. I'll simply refer healer DPS as Hobson's Choice. Hobson's Choice is the kind of illusion of choice where you have the option for "something" or nothing at all. This is more often the case for, but not limited to, harder content and in particular for certain healing roles when there are two healer present. In this particular iteration of Hobson's Choice:
You decide to contribute in damage as a healer, you'll have more chances to get into groups as you're known to the community to be a "good healer"
You decide not to contribute in damage as a healer, you'll lose out on groups (or even alienated completely) if you're known to the community as "the 0 dps healer"

[DarkmoonVael]

I love lightspeed gravity spam. Pretty much the useful thing in dungoens with alot of adds. Well start out small dps here and there but mostly healing then go big when you get the hang of the fight

Please for the love of everything stop using the cooldown that says it REDUCES attack magic potency to dps...........

This has been beating around like a dead horse that's been resurrected from the dead just to be beaten to death again for pure satisfaction. I'll simply refer healer DPS as Hobson's Choice. Hobson's Choice is the kind of illusion of choice where you have the option for "something" or nothing at all. This is more often the case for, but not limited to, harder content and in particular for certain healing roles when there are two healer present. In this particular iteration of Hobson's Choice:
You decide to contribute in damage as a healer, you'll have more chances to get into groups as you're known to the community to be a "good healer"
You decide not to contribute in damage as a healer, you'll lose out on groups (or even alienated completely) if you're known to the community as "the 0 dps healer"

I think you have pretty much summed up the infallible argument here. If you want to be known to be a good healer and get into groups then learning to heal and dps is the way to go.

[FoxyAreku]

Being able to dps in downtime is what separates the good healers from the great ones.

If you don't care about being a good player and playing your class to the fullest and just want to keep people alive, more power to you, but if you want to excel or to play in the difficult endgame content, expect to DPS. All there really is to it.

[Kaeoni]

@OP

Healer doesn't need to be DPSing. But they should when they can.


Given experience and time, you'll get the hang of it and if you're unable to DPS once you're used to it, you're going to be bored to tears.
You'll have to take our word for it. There are cases where you can't DPS and shouldn't DPS but you'll be able to distinguish those situations from others with again, experience and time. Mainly when you can't keep the Tank alive, the real dps are taking too much needless damage, ect.

My advice would be, Don't even touch your damaging abilities regardless of what anyone else says until you're comfortable with your class and healing. Your primary function is healing and if you can't do that you're worthless. After you're comfortable, then and ONLY then should you begin working some Holy, BioI/II, Miasma or w/e else into your rotations.

If other healers are doing it, it's because we can. And If you can, why shouldn't you? Just keep it in the back of your mind for when you're ready.
I've never been a Healer in an MMO before this one. Brd/Whm in FFxi was the closest I got. So maybe it took me a bit longer than most... But I love to dps as Sch now. Infact... I'm bored again with Sch because healing and DPSing isn't enough. Regular dungeons are like lullaby's.

[gumas]

Being able to dps in downtime is what separates the good healers from the great ones.

If you don't care about being a good player and playing your class to the fullest and just want to keep people alive, more power to you, but if you want to excel or to play in the difficult endgame content, expect to DPS. All there really is to it.

On this one iam not planning to be like main focus healer, i guess i just more into casual. Basically in party/raid iam good with anything like "oh that guy? He's fine" that kind healer lol

[Sanlaw]

Yes, healer should dps all the time when given the chance. The only expection is savage and ex primal fight, usually most of those fight required lots of group and burst healing.