This game needs an Open World PvP Server

[RobbieH]

Then everyone who doesn't pvp would get mad and unsub because they'd feel forced into it. SE wouldn't do that.

Why would you enjoy ruining another players game? Says a lot about what kind of a person you are. PvP is just an e-peen fapping contest.

Which part of PVP Server you don't understand?

[UnstablePersonality]

Which part of PVP Server you don't understand?

I understand it fine, my comment that you quoted was in response to someone saying make the whole game open world pvp on every server.

It shouldn't be a PvP server, just apply it to all servers.

Maybe exclude the original three zones of Eorzea to protect the new players.

Aka that^

[Teryaani]

Which part of PVP Server you don't understand?

There are definitely a goodly number of pvp players playing FFXIV. I think you may be overestimating the interest in how many of them want an entire open world server.

What about a diadem like free-for-all zone that pulled from your data center so you would have a larger base of players?

[RobbieH]

There are definitely a goodly number of pvp players playing FFXIV. I think you may be overestimating the interest in how many of them want an entire open world server.

What about a diadem like free-for-all zone that pulled from your data center so you would have a larger base of players?

The PvP player base isn't small, the rewards and GC limitations is what kills it, the Feast was a nice addition, but the rewards aren't appealing enough, people would get their minion and/or mount and quit, which is what happened.

If you however pointed out the amount of casual PvP and serious ones, then yes, serious players aren't that much, but they're not 50 either, look at the Feast rankings and you'll have an idea.

Also, if there was to be a PvP Server, there would be PvP Balance changes, which is the main issue i see here, in the state PvP is atm, Warrior would be by far the best class to roam and kill others.

Also, with it would come rewards, such as titles, glamours, mounts, minions, etc. That alone would attract people, sadly it would also attract the wrong crowds, such as bad players which would come to the forums complain that X class is OP etc.

For the people saying this game isn't meant for PvP they have no idea what they are saying, and the proof is how Seal Rock, Feast used to be (not anymore because in this game once new content is released it kills previous ones) and now Shatter is, a success, just isn't more because of GC restrictions they insist on tying to PvP.

Same for those saying it doesn't fit the FF universe, there was Dissidia.

[Teryaani]

The PvP player base isn't small, the rewards and GC limitations is what kills it, the Feast was a nice addition, but the rewards aren't appealing enough, people would get their minion and/or mount and quit, which is what happened.

If you however pointed out the amount of casual PvP and serious ones, then yes, serious players aren't that much, but they're not 50 either, look at the Feast rankings and you'll have an idea.

My angle on this discussion isn't the size of the community. I know that there is an actual pvp community for this game and it's why SE is still doing new development for said community. I'm not sure I agree with the premise that there are enough of those players who would switch to a wpvp server vs those that would do free-for-all content from their current server.

[RobbieH]

My angle on this discussion isn't the size of the community. I know that there is an actual pvp community for this game and it's why SE is still doing new development for said community. I'm not sure I agree with the premise that there are enough of those players who would switch to a wpvp server vs those that would do free-for-all content from their current server.

Well Yoshi said during E3 he wants it, however i assume if it's coming then won't be anytime soon.

Trust me, if the rewards are good enough people will transfer or create a new toon on the new server.

[Evergrey]

Same for those saying it doesn't fit the FF universe, there was Dissidia.

It might be true that Dissidia exists, but remember that Dissidia is not FFXIV.
As far as I know Dissidia is an arcade fighting game and built from the ground to be one, not an RPG. It doesn't seem to be tied down by lore like FFXIV is.

But nothing tells us that open world PvP can never happen. Even WoW started without open world PvP, it didn't even have Battlegrounds, just like FFXIV.

[RiceisNice]

But nothing tells us that open world PvP can never happen. Even WoW started without open world PvP, it didn't even have Battlegrounds, just like FFXIV.

WoW's desing with classes allows for Open world PvP to exist.

In FFXIV's case, the overall combat pacing in PvE is way too slow to mesh with PvP, nor do I find it my cup of tea to be on the gifting end of stray BtEs and one shotting people.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

. . . nor do I find it my cup of tea to be on the gifting end of stray BtEs and one shotting people.

It's like falling in love, but with less butferflies and more sudden punch to the face!