Clive's Paladin Compiilation

[Brian_]

You are confusing my post and putting words in my mouth. I didn't say PLD is best played by "casuals." I said that Paladin's toolkit helps a lot in casual content like the daily dungeons and etc, and then said that implying PLD is useless because the toolkit the job has isn't ideal for endgame raiding is basically ignoring the other 90% of the content of the game.

Raiders don't ignore 90% of the other content in the game. We just understand that raid balance filters down into lesser content. It's not like Reprisal, Delirium, Eye, Path, better sustained healing, higher single-target DPS, and significantly higher AoE DPS suddenly matters less when you queue for a 24-man or dungeon run. I did thousands of dungeon runs on PLD, did all but Savage SCoB of 2.X on PLD, and still play PLD a considerable amount to this day. It's laughable how much better WAR is in content in general.

Well, if you want to compare compositions, DRK/NIN/DRG against PLD/MNK/DRG, you're basically trading Reprisal/Trick Attack for RoH/Mantra. The PLD setup is also more friendly to AST instead of a WHM so there's the cards too. At that point, in my humble opinion, the differences are more of wash than "way more impactful."

If you think Reprisal / Trick Attack / Shade Walker / Smoke Screen is an even trade against RoH / traited Mantra in a general sense, I really don't know what to say. If someone wants to dig their head that deep into the sand, I guess there isn't much you can say.

It's basically your opinion vs. the established opinion of the entire end-game raiding community.