Free Company tax?

[Snugglebutt]

Free company tax?

No.

I have to work my ass off to support my two person FC, it is practically non-stop farming FC points, gil and crafting materials for airships and housing items. I do not appreciate you wanting to impose an additional tax on mine just because you wanted the name another small FC used.

[Maero]

Some free companies are smaller as they are perhaps couples or family members and such, others are just long time friends, etc..
I do not know why this would bother anyone, not really anyones business either

[aresgodofwar30]

I never said you said your idea was good, but you did make a topic on it, so you obviously see something in it, even if it's not well thought out.
Up until recently, my FC was 2 people large (We are still small with 5 + 2 alts). We have a house with airships. Meaning we need FC credit to run them. Building credit takes a lot of time and investment when you're running a small FC. Imposing a tax would force a small team to work even harder to hold onto what large companies have with no effort. How do you think this is remotely okay?

Why are you assuming the tax would be so crippling as to disable an active Free Company? Such a tax would not need to be a static value. It could grow and shrink as the Company does. I think it is okay because it would encourage social, group play. After all that is the purpose of a Free Company.

[odie]

Do we know if SE has this system in place? If not, I feel we should ask for something. If everyone is so against taxing, then where is the uproar over teleportation fees and market board tax?

That's a tax that affects everyone equally. Yours does not. Yours is based on the size of the FC to get the smaller ones to close down so you can have the name you wanted. And your attack on their Christian FC was just that. You didn't feel like you had to match their adjective. The way they used it in their post was to clarify that their FC has a purpose, so that they have an FC where they can express their views openly. If they were not able to keep their FC they would then have to give that up and either not be able to freely express themselves, or attempt to express it in larger FCs or LSs that would be home to people like yourself who jump to insult them.

Their use of the adjective was legit, and helping to make a point. Yours was used in a smartass context.

[Vidu]

I think it is okay because it would encourage social, group play.

Please explain to me how "Listen everyone, we still need to pay our FC-tax, so everyone go out and grind for it!" is encouraging group play? How would that be "fun" to do? How would that be a fun group activity that people would want to do?

[aresgodofwar30]

Please explain to me how "Listen everyone, we still need to pay our FC-tax, so everyone go out and grind for it!" is encouraging group play? How would that be "fun" to do? How would that be a fun group activity that people would want to do?

I will ask again, why do you assume this tax would be such a grind to attain? Why wouldn't this encourage group play? You earn Company credits for completing dungeons with Company members, among many other activities.

[Vidu]

I will ask again, why do you assume this tax would be such a grind to attain? Why wouldn't this encourage group play? You earn Company credits for completing dungeons with Company members, among many other activities.

Company Credits are used to buy fuel for the airships, for the FC-buffs etc. etc. It can already be difficult for smaller FCs to earn them while a large FC doesnt has to worry about it, because they've got more members to contribute. I certainly dont wanna have to be like "Oh shit, guys, the tax is due next week, we have to run stuff now or else we gonna lose our FC, the house, the airships...!"

Dont hide your desire for a certain name under "but... group play!" It wouldnt encourage group play, it would FORCE it. And why should you even care if people are playing together in an FC or not? Its really non of your buisness - maybe they just like the company, you know?

Right now there are two possible outcomes for your... idea:

1) Nothing happens; the "tax" does nothing because its so small no one cares anyways - your name still isnt free (lets face it: you want THAT, not encourage people to play together...)
2) A lot of smaller FC are hurting for no good reason.

Also: I explained the market board tax and the teleport to you - as in: taking money out of the game. Paying in Free Company Credits doesnt serve that purpose, they're supposed to BENEFIT the FC - not to maintain it...

[odie]

I will ask again, why do you assume this tax would be such a grind to attain? Why wouldn't this encourage group play? You earn Company credits for completing dungeons with Company members, among many other activities.

I think you just have to accept that your plan so far, is unanimously not being accepted. And after your comments earlier, its really hard for anyone to want to listen to any point you're trying to make.

Nobody wants to feel like their FC is threatened by a tax. There are social FCs, and due to the burnout this game can put on a person, some people won't do duties at all. On Balmung, there are FCs for Roleplay, and they likely do more of that than anything else. You don't get credits for roleplay. For what you're claiming to want to do, which is getting inactive FCs disbanded, it could be handled by removing FCs with extended periods of inactivity. SE could clearly handle that.

We don't need to explain why your plan is a burden, although we have. I feel our points are better argued than your belief that these inactive free companies somehow impact you other than you not getting the name you wanted. In which case, I feel that a better solution, which doesn't take the devs time and resources, and doesn't affect other existing free companies of any size, would be for you to not be so basic in your name choices and come up with something clever instead. Names get taken. Just like player names. Pick a new one.

[Zigabar]

Why are you assuming the tax would be so crippling as to disable an active Free Company? Such a tax would not need to be a static value. It could grow and shrink as the Company does. I think it is okay because it would encourage social, group play. After all that is the purpose of a Free Company.

Why are you trying to dictate our social group play? I get plenty of that with my linkshells, which holds the mantle for social group play.

[axemtitanium]

If the name you want for your FC is already in use by someone else, it probably wasn't very creative to begin with.