Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[MeiUshu]

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this post is annoying me beyond measure. You do realize that there are TOTALLY new players around ? yes ? that never played it, that are just geared for Ex Primals and so is perfectly NORMAL to ask infos, help tips, guidance from the veterans and more so from Mentors, designated to actually help newbies. Is normal they ask, they never been there. Your comments is hugely ignorant (as in ignorant). You cant know a job before you actualy factually do it, and to do it, you need to be explained, I dont think you are born with instant knowledge and perfection in everything including that which you dont know ? why shoudl the rest be different ? Expectation of a Mentor that uses MEntor roulette is this of explaining to whoever is knew what there is to do and how....that is what they undertook when they became MEntors. Of course, they may not know it themselves, then they should say it. Your attitude is simply beyond words

[Cakekizyy]

If people ask in extreme what they are supposed to do, I leave, simply because that is my expectation to them. If people want to get supported by Mentors, they have to work as well.

This is no one sided route, it goes in both directions. You may call me strict but I just reflect those high expectations back at them.

Mentors have a bad title atm because people expect them to wipe their asses and do their work for them.

I refuse that. If people have prepared, I will give it my all for extremes. If they were even too lazy to watch a short guide, then I am too lazy to waste my time.

It's that simple.

Then stay out of DF and use PF.

[Trixxy]

to be honest most newbies that find their way into a random Extreme Trial Duty Finder group probably don't even know what they're getting themselves into.

most people who know that Ex trials are no easy task - and that there's the much easier unsynced alternative - won't even bother looking at the DF when it comes to Ex trials.

It's, frankly, not their fault for being unprepared.

[Miste]

Mentors have a bad title atm because people expect them to wipe their asses and do their work for them.

I refuse that. If people have prepared, I will give it my all for extremes. If they were even too lazy to watch a short guide, then I am too lazy to waste my time.

It's that simple.

You are vastly over exaggerating how much help you need to offer as a Mentor. Most players will accept if you at least attempt the fight a couple of times. Most fights you can also quickly explain in about 3-5 lines of text. How is that wiping their asses? Like why be a Mentor at all if your minimal effort is ...well ZERO since you just leave immediately if you happen upon something harder than Ifrit story mode and people are not 100% prepared.

No one said to do all the work for them, a basic explanation goes a long way and barely takes any time to offer. Not to mention just, I don't know, sticking around to try the fight a couple of times to make more than zero effort would at least let them see some of the fight and help them if they attempt to go again.

[RyuSaarva]

I reckon if SE didn't include EX trials it would be a much better experience for everyone overall.

EX related things I think should always be relegated to party finder and premade groups, but I doubt SE will ever change that now.

they are really old item level 60+ fights and don't even deserve to be called extreme anymore.

I don't care if you we wiping but if nobody speaks english and nobody knows the strategy, I will try to vote abandon.

[NaesakiAshwell]

@Naesaki (my hero !!! you dont want to move to Balmung?)

I'm flattered Mei but unfortunately I am very taken with Odin server and I don't think my net would like me very much for trying to play on the highest pop american server :P

[alythias]

The recent replies to this thread is what terrifies me about hitting 60. I can (and do) spend what feels like hours watching videos and reading guides before tackling a new dungeon and trial, but I'm still going to need a quick run down before it begins. And as a healer, most guides are from a tanks perspective, and I have to rely on my knowledge of my skillset more so than a video.

I don't want to be that person who has mentors drop me because I ask for a quick run down prior to beginning. I don't want to feel like I'm hindering the party because I'm a hands-on learner rather than one who can just retain the five minutes worth of video I just watched on repeat for the twentieth time.

I know this community has more kindhearted players than bad. But it's far from comforting to know that simply because I'm new and learning, I'm not worth wasting time on.

[MeiUshu]

I'm flattered Mei but unfortunately I am very taken with Odin server and I don't think my net would like me very much for trying to play on the highest pop american server :P

dont worry I perfectly understand that, even the *over populated thing*...you my Hero of the day !

[Oatmealraisin]

I don't want to be that person who has mentors drop me because I ask for a quick run down prior to beginning.

Even worse, the mentors who leave as soon as they see the bonus notice, without even giving you a chance to say you know the dungeon because you watched the guide/are on an alt.

But although that sucks, at least you have the knowledge that they screwed themselves out of a good run and a free bonus because they decided to be lazy jerks.

[Norit]

*angry vent*

Astro with i230 relic weapon on 60 dungeon roulette (aetherochemical research whatever sp, so prolly spamming that for next step).
The astro used 2 balance cards in all dungeon (first boss and second boss, on the bard always, I was on smn).
On the way to 3rd boss he had balance card held for like already 5 min and I tell that he's holding that card like it's the ring of power, his reply is that getting a balance is really hard...
Ofc we do 3rd boss, and he never used that card (maybe is holding it for the next extreme primal he does next year or something), he also never popped cleric stance to dps at least, if you're not gona keep popping cards at least dps, but ofc no, that's asking too much.

Don't know why this astro really made angry, maybe bc it was the first class I leveled in HW and I thought it was gona be my main, then I realized it was way gimped compared to SCH and WHM back then, but NOW? with all the buffs the class got? seeing people playing the class this bad makes enrage for real, no wonder other people still thinks astro suxs seeing people play the class terrible.

*end vent*