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  1. #11
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    ValinEndac's Avatar
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    Valin Endac
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    Dark Knight Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
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    It's not false information, just not statistically as likely to happen as other scenarios as this does indeed have a chance to happen with all of these buffs/debuts applied. However, like I said I won't be using to base completely Dark Knights abilities off of, as once all of the data has been corrected I will be able to use this for future reference when I want to see any combination of abilities.

    Also, another reason for me making this is that I couldn't find this data anywhere else and thought it might be useful to others too. Also, people like different things, I like finding out what the absolute best scenario is for each tank(with correct numbers of course) and calculating it. Once all of the numbers are there with the correct data anyone could work backwards to get data for more common occurrences than listed. Once I get the data for an iLevel 210+ Paladin's Shield Block my data will be complete. I may add Warrior in the future, but I don't have a substantial amount of experience playing them, so I would need help putting together that data from another person who does.
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  2. #12
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    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ValinEndac View Post
    It's not false information, just not statistically as likely to happen as other scenarios as this does indeed have a chance to happen with all of these buffs/debuts applied. However, like I said I won't be using to base completely Dark Knights abilities off of, as once all of the data has been corrected I will be able to use this for future reference when I want to see any combination of abilities.

    Also, another reason for me making this is that I couldn't find this data anywhere else and thought it might be useful to others too. Also, people like different things, I like finding out what the absolute best scenario is for each tank(with correct numbers of course) and calculating it. Once all of the numbers are there with the correct data anyone could work backwards to get data for more common occurrences than listed. Once I get the data for an iLevel 210+ Paladin's Shield Block my data will be complete. I may add Warrior in the future, but I don't have a substantial amount of experience playing them, so I would need help putting together that data from another person who does.
    My i220 Kite Shield is currently reducing damage by 22% on a block. This will hopefully increase to 23% by the time I reach i240, but I'm not certain it will. Tower Shields in this category should be reducing around 30% but only Kite Shields currently exist from i220 on.

    Regarding Warrior things... let's see if I can combine the groups like you did. I think the best analogues to Rampart/Shadowskin and Sentinel/Shadow Wall are the Trill of Battle+Convalescence combo(only together do they become equivalent to damage reduction) and Vengeance respectively. You've disregarded Foresight in all of your calculations thus far so I won't include it myself.

    Group A(Thrill + Conva)
    Thrill + Conva -17.77%
    Storm's Path -10%
    Inner Beast -20%
    Parry -20%
    Total Hit = 4798.08
    Total Reduction = 52.02%

    Group B(Vengeance)
    Vengeance -30%
    Storm's Path -10%
    Inner Beast -20%
    Parry -20%
    Total Hit = 4032
    Total Reduction = 59.68%
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    I think an interesting discussion would be Shield Blocking VS Reprisal+Grit'd Souleater VS Storm's Path, and the pros and cons of each.
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    You cannot run a 100% perfect scenario not let become 100% perfect there is to many variables you gotta take account for those and how to eliminate them
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  5. #15
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    Valin Endac
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
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    Wow, thanks for that information Donjo. I will update my post with all of that after tomorrow as I'm a little busy now. That pretty much filled in all of the data I needed for everything. I'm a little surprised how much mitigation Warrior can pull off in perfect scenarios.

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    No doubt Xenosan, I think that would be an interesting discussion to have. I may start another thread later on about it after I read more about each of them. I'm just trying to concentrate on a perfect scenario with mitigation for each of the tanks with this thread so I can collect all of the data first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
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    In not insinuating that it would happen with any regularity or that one could even force a chain of events like this at will. However, I know for a fact that I have had this chain of events happen to me while tanking, now I doubt I could get it happen during a boss fight, especially when a tank buster is about to happen. But that doesn't mean it's impossible. But like I said in a previous post, this is just to gather the data for an optimal situation for each tank and then anyone can use the data to work backwards to get any combination of skills.
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    Last edited by ValinEndac; 06-21-2016 at 04:34 AM.

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