YoshiP No more Region Exclusive Items, Please.

[Welsper59]

Thank you for the heads up about the link, I've went and fixed it.

While I understand the idea that region locked items are meant as incentive to play the game, how does that factor in with other regions? JPN has a huge, huge amount of people playing FFXIV and even they got their own region locked items, which, yes, were eventually brought over but bring them to other regions was very much an after thought.

I could see the issue witht he exlusive items being part of a deal with the companies running them in China and Korea, but if that were part of the problem, why then would YoshiP ask us to give feedback regarding getting these items in other regions. And, further speculation on my part, would it really be an issue when it's clear that SE is the one that owns the assets for this art since they are the once producing it?

Everyone always thinks "exclusive" literally means it will forever be impossible to see it branch out, when it comes to consumer markets. You know, like how the console FF games were "exclusive" to the system(s) they originally released for... oh look, officially released PC versions. It takes time, and in some cases will take years (like full games), but it's merely an example that "exclusive" does not always mean what people think it means. Given how (apparently) SE aren't the ones who decide on the exclusives for China and Korea, but are the ones who own the license, they could always bring it over if they feel the need to. If there is enough demand, they'll look into it. Doesn't mean we'll get those exact goods, but it does mean something LIKE it is a real possibility.

Besides that, aren't those items going to be in their cash shop? Which would probably mean if we got something like it, it'd also be cash shop. Oh how the evangelist types here love to cry out that the sky is falling everytime something is added to the cash shop that they want. Even if it were added in-game but slightly varied in color, people would complain and say it's bullshit that they didn't get the exact version. The outcries for vanity is really funny to see these days. Precious snowflakes that only want what they don't have. Not everyone is like that, obviously, but many are.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm all for having it eventually become available everywhere (or some form of it), but it always starts in the direction of anger or negativity, even when they (probably) aren't directly linked to what goes on in the other versions of the game. It's never something like "These <insert region> items look great! Would love to get something like that someday." to show interest, but rather it always begins like some kind of lecture or frothing at the mouth anger. This topic for example, is like lecturing the devs... wow.

The reason they ask for feedback is because they want to measure the interest for a given item. That way, they don't have to waste time and money likely negotiating with their foreign contracting companies to copy those "exclusive" items. That's right, even though they own the IP, it's not uncommon to still have to go through talks with their contract companies to do things. The final word is SE's, but it doesn't change professional (international) business practices... don't want to be that bully that takes things that were likely detailed as "exclusive" for a period of time. Particularly when it deals with the consumers as well. Some items, no matter how much demand there is for it, won't see an outside release. If they do however, it's likely LONG after the fact. Entitlement attitudes will only get you so far before the one in charge puts their foot down and tells you "no!".

[Quinburger]

Besides that, aren't those items going to be in their cash shop?

Actually, there is no cash shop in china. Micro-transactions are not allowed there

This topic for example, is like lecturing the devs... wow.

The Devs asked for this feedback. This is the viewpoint of a portion of their users. You can't say "Give us feedback, but only the kind we want to hear", well, unless you want a skewed response that means nothing.

It's not entitled to want something. It is to demand it. This topic is -asking- that this happen, opening a discussion.

I feel the word "entitled" gets thrown around too much, without people really knowing what it means.

[dekal]

Cuz this is a paid game so players want to demand w/e cute stuffs they see on other regions.

[Jayjohn]

So much tears due to ignorance.

[Jetstream_Fox]

I just can't believe people think the game should have region locked content, it's almost saddening. It's really almost as bad as disk locked content I.E. Street Fighter vs Tekken. It's not a matter of entitlement or anything of that nature, or whatever people want to claim. It's a matter of what is right and wrong, something released to one area of players should be accessible by every other area of players. Now, if SE thinks item A wouldn't work good in market B, then by all means keep it in market A. But at least give market B something in return. This game wouldn't be here at 3.3 without ALL of the players' support and continuing play.

[Khyzen]

Just adding in another voice for no more region-locked, exclusive items. If they're designed and implemented into one region of the game, they should be implemented into all regions. At the very least, let there be timed exclusives so if one region is given exclusive items, the other regions receive it by the next major patch. And if you're going to be giving one region exclusives, you should be giving all regions their own exclusives (that all eventually become shared). Personally, I don't really care about the debate as to whether they should be free in-game or through the cash shop. Just make them AVAILABLE.

Not sure what exactly you're looking here for either. A few months back when those other Chinese/Korean exclusive outfits came out, Yoshi P said to get on the forums and let them know if we wanted them available in other regions. I'm pretty sure we all did, and yet we still haven't heard anything.

[Welsper59]

Actually, there is no cash shop in china. Micro-transactions are not allowed there



The Devs asked for this feedback. This is the viewpoint of a portion of their users. You can't say "Give us feedback, but only the kind we want to hear", well, unless you want a skewed response that means nothing.

It's not entitled to want something. It is to demand it. This topic is -asking- that this happen, opening a discussion.

I feel the word "entitled" gets thrown around too much, without people really knowing what it means.

Do you really think TC and others would be accepting (without a long standing degree of complaining) if Yoshi-P outright said "no, we're not going to give you that because <reason>"? Just because someone asks for something, doesn't mean they're going to accept "no" for an answer. Hell, they constantly tell us they can't do something, but we (I'm one of them) question the validity of their response and complain even further. We "ask", but that's not the end of it... and it will never be the end of it until we get exactly what we want. We're not demanding, but we will always complain for the things we want, hence the label of "entitlement" actually fits in cases like these. Keep in mind, it's not "bad", as that's a subjective criticism, but rather that it does still fit within of the scope of being entitled.

Mind you, I'm not saying you can't give these sorts of feedback. I'm saying that it's practically the majority of what anyone gives. In this case, the "give us feedback, but only the kind we want to hear" remark doesn't exactly work well. They're never going to change the inaccessible exclusives upon their release, and that much is an absolute fact as long as there are separate regional servers and another company is creating/releasing the content. I mean the game was introduced with that concept in mind. That'd be like them suddenly changing their update release schedule here to 4 or 5 months. It's not AT ALL a marketed feature you'll see in ads or on the store page/box, but it's something that we associate with the game to have a 3-month-ish update schedule. Changing that causes problems with the players, like that short extended lull period we had not long ago.

In all languages, to "ask" or "suggest" can translate into a passive demand. Ever asked for something (like vacation from work), and your boss told you "I suppose, but do you really think you should?" Despite what was literally said (that you got the OK), do you really think that nothing bad is going to come about it? Likewise, if a player "asks" for something, do you really think after being told "no", that'll be the end of it? There are so many of our peers that treat a "no" like a personal attack, or some kind of excuse to hold a grudge lol, regardless of how minor that grudge becomes.

Edit: Regarding the cash shop though, is that true? So their level boost is just available for free?

[Vivi_Bushido]

The devs asked for feedback and I want to give them mine.

SE! Please find a way to bring the region exclusive items over to JP/NA/EU. I would very much ever be grateful if you were to bring them to our game. Thank you.

For others who want the exclusives brought over as well, please express your support!

[Seoulstar]

Just saying I still want that hanbok. I'm growing tired of seeing bikini's here in NA.

[DamianFatale]

I hate to agree with this, but its true.. when you don't give the whole community access to the same thing.. it kinda hurts. It makes you feel like another country of players is more important than you.