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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinburger View Post
    Wait, so, let me get this straight. You're calling Lillith entitled for wanting glamor items, but then say housing is a real issue. You don't -need- a house to play the game, any more than someone needs a glamor to play the game. Both are parts of the game that people want. You can't argue against someone wanting glamors, then say you're right for wanting more housing (Not that I disagree about housing personally).

    Your argument is simply hypocritical. Just because you value one type of content over another, you assign different rules to the argument.
    Housing offers content that you cannot obtain otherwise.

    That is comparable to glamours how? I would like you to elaborate since you called me a hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    You are getting the service you are paying for. You not getting patches? You not able to log in? Should the suscription go up because they've added more glamours? You not have a mount to ride (or rather a choice of)?Oh wait no you arn't getting what you paid for becasue you can't obtain a few cosmetic items... I'm sorry but this is ridiculous...
    who are you to determine what my endgame is? This is a sandbox MMO, yes? We all have different goals, yes? There are avid mount collectors who's end game IS obtaining items like the new nimbus mount. Please spare me your pompous presumptions about what a person gets out of their playing experience. It's very naive of you to think that no one would consider cosmetic items to be a big deal in a game largely based on cosmetic rewards.

    Yes, I am not getting what I paid for when the list of region locked cosmetic items keeps growing every year. Maybe I would be less salty about it if SE ever did something special for the NA/EU communities, but they never do and never will. The NA/EU communities will always be an afterthought to promotions, IF we are lucky. More than likely, most of these items will get the chinese behemoth treatment and us NA/EU/AU players will just have to suck it up while never receiving any cool region specific promotions of our own.

    You might be cool with being the regional afterthought, but I am not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Housing offers content that you cannot obtain otherwise.

    That is comparable to glamours how?
    Glamors are content. Just because you don't care about them, doesn't make them any less so. A house and a glamor are both pretty pixels on the screen.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    FYI: SE has no control over the China and Korean versions, as they are released under different companies.



    sry m8
    Then how about they take some of that cash shop money and make us a JP/NA/EU/AU equivalent of the dragon ball mount we would all love to have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Housing offers content that you cannot obtain otherwise.

    That is comparable to glamours how? I would like you to elaborate since you called me a hypocrite.
    Role playing is no longer viable content? Unique glamours = unique roll play experiences. What exactly does a house provide you with that you cannot accomplish through other means? Owait... You can literally do anything intended for solo play with or without a house.
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    Last edited by zosia; 06-18-2016 at 04:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
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    I don't but if your endgame is ruined over a few cosmetic items then even having them won't make you happy (am sick of glamour complaints tbh). It's not your collectors item if you can't have it on your account. So what about those people who don't have legacy stuff? They allowed that? That must be part of the "collection" too.

    You can stop with the forced outrage too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinburger View Post
    Glamors are content. Just because you don't care about them, doesn't make them any less so. A house and a glamor are both pretty pixels on the screen.
    Some glamour items equal - Coil, Alex, story content (etc) ok got it.
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 06-18-2016 at 04:34 AM.

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    Give us something similar and we can call it even.
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  8. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    Give us something similar and we can call it even.
    Can agree with this.

    People will still ask for the ones they can't have because they want it though.
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  9. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    I don't but if your endgame is ruined over a few cosmetic items then even having them won't make you happy (am sick of glamour complaints tbh). It's not your collectors item if you can't have it on your account. So what about those people who don't have legacy stuff? They allowed that? That must be part of the "collection" too.You can stop with the forced outrage too.
    I will stop with forced outrage when you stop with your slippery slope argument. Yeah, the legacy chocobo should remain a status symbol (AKA unobtainable). We have several chocobo mounts and the legacy chocobo is not very unique (unlike the nimbus mount). One of the problems we have is the lack of any exclusive NA/EU promotions. This sense of "it's not mine to collect" is entirely unfair when we never get the same treatment with exclusivity.

    You revealed your bias on this topic through your replies with housing. These glamours/mount don't tickle your fancy like housing does, how dare anyone actually be upset over game content they care about... /rollseyes.
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  10. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Can agree with this.

    People will still ask for the ones they can't have because they want it though.
    Just like you ask for a house, because you can't have one. It's not wrong for people to want things they don't have. I don't understand your resistance to letting people have these items. Especially considering they're already made, it's not even asking for resources and time to be spent on it.

    The glamor items being offered are very unique looking, and very different from anything else in the game. It's clear to me why they are very desirable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    snip.
    No I don't care for housing either but I can see the issue... So much for that bias you like to think I have.

    It's not slippy slope at all, no you should not be allowed region exclusive items that arn't for your region... Pretty simple. Should we get more exclusives for ours? Yes we should.

    I doubt that would make many of you happy though tbh, you'll probably pretend to be happy about it and then complain you can't get your own Nimbus still.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinburger View Post
    Just like you ask for a house, because you can't have one. It's not wrong for people to want things they don't have. I don't understand your resistance to letting people have these items. Especially considering they're already made, it's not even asking for resources and time to be spent on it.

    The glamor items being offered are very unique looking, and very different from anything else in the game. It's clear to me why they are very desirable.
    Because they are exclusive... That means not everyone can have one... It's not hard to understand.
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 06-18-2016 at 04:41 AM.

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