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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    *snerks* You seem to be intentionally misreading what I have to say despite my rather friendly attempts at explaining. But hey, if you want to accuse me of being entilted, feel free. At the end of the day what I have to say, and what you have to say, are merely opinions and people can take them or leave them as they so desire.
    No I get what you are saying it's just you are trying to talk circles around it and I'm cutting to the chase. You are not saying you should have them but you are of the opinion that you should have them... Like that's not contradictory in the slightest.

    Well I am saying you shouldn't have them and I shouldn't have them they stay exclusive.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Ghh so your not saying you "should be allowed it" but you are saying "I actually should be allowed it"... Why is it just not - "Oh I'm not allowed it? Oh well I'll just pick something else from the 100000 glamours in game"

    It's still feeling entitled to in game items that you really shouldn't even be asking for since you are on the excluded list. Again kinda the point of exclusive items.
    Yeah, but it's a lousy point since we are paying customers. Paying customers are entitled to a service that they paid for. It is up to the customer to determine if the services justify the expense. Entitlement is not a bad thing in the right context. For example, I feel entitled to peace and quiet in my irl home that I have paid for. What makes that entitlement any different from the nimbus cloud? A mount we have no NA equivalent to? No mount comes close to that aesthetic or riding pose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    No I get what you are saying it's just you are trying to talk circles around it and I'm cutting to the chase.

    Opinions and wanting more glamours is not comparable to major issues like housing.
    This is not a housing thread? This thread is about region locked promotional items.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    So because I would like to wear an outfit which would be a nice representation of my mixed ancestry but can not because I am american born and raised I am jealous and entilted? That sounds rather small minded.
    You're putting words in my mouth. My message wasn't directed to you, I understand you want to represent your ancestry, I respect that and you have the right to ask for this. But there are far many more issues with this game, that genuinely affect the majority of the players. So saying "I'm not going to play so the devs can give us exclusive glamours!" like a player above said, makes me really sad. If she really thinks that's what's wrong with this game, she really needs to get her facts straight.

    By the way, thanks for being civil. I was in no way trying to make less of your request. That's what this forum is for.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    You're putting words in my mouth. My message wasn't directed to you, I understand you want to represent your ancestry, I respect that and you have the right to ask for this. But there are far many more issues with this game, that genuinely affect the majority of the players. So saying "I'm not going to play so the devs can give us exclusive glamours!" like a player above said, makes me really sad. If she really thinks that's what's wrong with this game, she really needs to get her facts straight.

    By the way, thanks for being civil. I was in no way trying to make less of your request. That's what this forum is for.
    There are already multiple threads about the topics you care about being discussed. Why does something like housing matter in a thread about promotional items? It just derails the thread topic for your own agenda.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    No I get what you are saying it's just you are trying to talk circles around it and I'm cutting to the chase. You are not saying you should have them but you are of the opinion that you should have them... Like that's not contradictory in the slightest.

    Well I am saying you shouldn't have them and I shouldn't have them they stay exclusive.
    Nope. I don't believe I should have them. But I do want them, so I'm asking them to become accesiable to my region. There is a difference between feeling entilted to something and wanting something.

    If you believe I shouldn't have, you shouldn't have, then that's awesome ^_^ Welcome to expression your opinion, and I respect that opinion. But that doesn't stop me from wanting them items and expressing my opinion of such.

    So, now that we've both expressed our opinion, I think we can be done with this back and forth Enjoy your weekend.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    Yeah, but it's a lousy point since we are paying customers. Paying customers are entitled to a service that they paid for. It is up to the customer to determine if the services justify the expense. Entitlement is not a bad thing in the right context. For example, I feel entitled to peace and quiet in my irl home that I have paid for. What makes that entitlement any different from the nimbus cloud? A mount we have no NA equivalent to? No mount comes close to that aesthetic or riding pose.
    You are getting the service you are paying for. You not getting patches? You not able to log in? Should the suscription go up because they've added more glamours? You not have a mount to ride (or rather a choice of)?

    Oh wait no you arn't getting what you paid for because you can't obtain a few cosmetic items... I'm sorry but this is ridiculous...
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 06-18-2016 at 04:19 AM.

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    FYI: SE has no control over the China and Korean versions, as they are released under different companies.



    sry m8
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    You're putting words in my mouth. My message wasn't directed to you, I understand you want to represent your ancestry, I respect that and you have the right to ask for this. But there are far many more issues with this game, that genuinely affect the majority of the players. So saying "I'm not going to play so the devs can give us exclusive glamours!" like a player above said, makes me really sad. If she really thinks that's what's wrong with this game, she really needs to get her facts straight.

    By the way, thanks for being civil. I was in no way trying to make less of your request. That's what this forum is for.
    As a note, that was meant for the person that I quoted, not to be directed at you so apologies if it came off that way. I do agree, there are far bigger issues in this game than whether I can twirl about in a pretty dress or not, but since many many others have already lent their voice to such issues via various mediums, I thought I'd lend my voice to this ^_^

    And no problem, I much prefer civil conversation to anything else.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Nope. I don't believe I should have them. But I do want them, so I'm asking them to become accesiable to my region. There is a difference between feeling entilted to something and wanting something.

    If you believe I shouldn't have, you shouldn't have, then that's awesome ^_^ Welcome to expression your opinion, and I respect that opinion. But that doesn't stop me from wanting them items and expressing my opinion of such.

    So, now that we've both expressed our opinion, I think we can be done with this back and forth Enjoy your weekend.
    Cool and I respect yours no matter how differing it is.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
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    Wait, so, let me get this straight. You're calling Lillith entitled for wanting glamor items, but then say housing is a real issue. You don't -need- a house to play the game, any more than someone needs a glamor to play the game. Both are parts of the game that people want. You can't argue against someone wanting glamors, then say you're right for wanting more housing (Not that I disagree about housing personally).

    Your argument is simply hypocritical. Just because you value one type of content over another, you assign different rules to the argument.
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