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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Renabi Rena
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    If it was retainer I highly doubt it could be accesses straght from glamor menu. After all we can't access material from retainers for crafting either. It also should have requirement for the items put in to be soulbound. Otherwise infinite spots would be just misused, even if it only accepted only single of any item.

    I think a glamour log should be the way to go. It could even have a requirement to have all the 5 pieces of a set to be recorded, which effectively means they'd only need to save one ID instead of five. Then if you have one set recorded, you can glamour to each of its items separately as if you had them as separate items. It would also emphasise the collection aspect.
    Well, if they do it with my idea, it would basically take very little to no programming to put in since the UI's are already there and you just need to build a few paths of information. The game has the ability to search your Retainer's inventories for items even if you're in different zones or an instance, so it wouldn't be a stretch that the glamour window should be able to obtain information from a retainer. A glamour log on the other hand would require them to list every glamour-able item in the game and would require them to make a whole new UI for it. It would also require them to completely scrap the current glamour system instead of building on their existing programming.

    In terms of people "abusing" the infinite slot retainer (remember that it's only one of each glamour-able item), you could make it soulbond upon depositing and charge a fee for withdrawing, like 1000 gil.
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    I think a glamour log should be the way to go. It could even have a requirement to have all the 5 pieces of a set to be recorded, which effectively means they'd only need to save one ID instead of five. Then if you have one set recorded, you can glamour to each of its items separately as if you had them as separate items. It would also emphasise the collection aspect.
    If it's set up to record any glamourable gear items you have, it presumably wouldn't be storing IDs at all. All it would need to record is a single bit indicating whether you do or do not have the item for each one. (That's much the same way the armoire works as well as presumably many other features of the game.)

    As for needing a full set, that would only work for pieces that are part of a set. It might be awkward to have some pieces require a five piece set, others a three piece set, and others none at all. It means they'd need a place to tell players what other pieces are needed to complete the set for any given gear item. I do like the emphasis it places on collecting, though, so maybe it's worth coming up with that.


    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    A glamour log on the other hand would require them to list every glamour-able item in the game and would require them to make a whole new UI for it. It would also require them to completely scrap the current glamour system instead of building on their existing programming.
    No, a glamour log would still be using the existing glamour system, and probably the existing UI for it. The logged items would simply be more pages in the appearance side of the UI window. (The only change there would be that they'd probably need to come up with a way of categorizing all the items with another dropdown list.)

    What might need to change though is dye. Since a glamour log would only give you item appearances, you'd need to re-dye any item you want in a non-default color. For normal dyes, this wouldn't really be an issue, but they might need some way to record which items had one of the rare or Mog-purchased dyes, and let you re-use those colors for those items.


    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    In terms of people "abusing" the infinite slot retainer (remember that it's only one of each glamour-able item), you could make it soulbond upon depositing and charge a fee for withdrawing, like 1000 gil.
    Or if the items are usable for glamour while recorded in the glamour log, it could be deposit only. Once you record an item to your glamour log, you can glamour that appearance any time, but cannot get it back as an item (except by earning/making/buying another one).
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