Report All the people Selling AND Buying houses in PF

[Knahli]

Well I would say a bit above to be honest to cover the cost of the house and furniture that's destroyed.

No, that is an entitled line of thinking. Houses were never meant to be sold in the first place and the game doesn't even permit the selling of used equipment considering the Binding system. Housing is an investment and if you honestly didn't care enough about it to risk not only losing the money spent on purchase, but also that placed into it over the course of your lease, then honestly I don't know why it was even purchased in the first place.

Even if the idea is just to attempt to upgrade then that should not be the responsibility of the buyer to cater for. When you place an item you are committed to destroying it's monetary value; even if the idea was just to temporarily remove it to test something then that's on you, not anyone else. If anything, the focus should be on SE to allow a hard transfer or a temporary inventory for housing items that cannot be returned to the inventory. Anything else is just people trying to completely avoid the consequences that come with having second thoughts on a home/taking a gamble at upgrading.

[Malackai]

It could be just as simple as being able to put your plot or plot+house up for sale through the placard it just picks the current plot price and puts it up for sale.
The person that sells the plot gets his/her money back and others can buy it for normal plot price +house permit.

Or just have the relinquishes land give back % of the plot price and it would solve most of the issues.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

See that's the problem like you said SE has designed the system in a method that it is not meant to be sold. Which means very few risk upgrading in case they lose their land. Only real way to sell your house at the moment is not enter it for a few months. Even then you are still back to square one as most likely will be no plots to buy for an upgrade after a few months.

Sorry the selling player should get plot and permit price back at the very least. Without an incentive to sell or secure way to upgrade houses will not return to market.
Also cant compare to gear at least with that you can desynth, convert or trade in for points. The house owner is getting nothing back currently.

[Dimitrii]

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Why don't you try this and let us know how it turns out for you? Ultimately neither your nor any other player's definition of "exuberant" or "house flipping" is gonna matter because they aren't the ones making the decisions in the rulings.

[Dimitrii]

If you buy a house and then a month later decide you never really wanted a house in the first place why not just relinquish the house like SE intended in the first place? There's no denying that SE royally fkd up with the institution of the housing system but the players exacerbated the situation with their feeling of entitlement. Housing was clearly developed with the intention of it being a gil sink (one of the very few in game) and thus no sale feature between players was added along with it. When you buy the house u did so knowing there would be no refund if you should feel the need to relinquish it for whatever reason. But nope players complained about that and yet even after instituting the auto demolish system which gives back 80% of the gil spent players still ended up selling houses because they felt entitled to not only recoup all losses but make a profit on top of that.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

^^Actually no. Since they brought in housing they promised a transfer service to upgrade housing.

[StouterTaru]

If you buy a house and then a month later decide you never really wanted a house in the first place why not just relinquish the house like SE intended in the first place?

Why would you relinquish it? If spending 3M plus house and furnishings is a big nothing to you, getting back 2.4M is even more meaningless. So the house is left virtually unused, despite there being someone would gladly buy it for 10M.

[Avera]

Why would you relinquish it? If spending 3M plus house and furnishings is a big nothing to you, getting back 2.4M is even more meaningless. So the house is left virtually unused, despite there being someone would gladly buy it for 10M.

Do you really not see how that is exploitation...=3=

[StouterTaru]

Do you really not see how that is exploitation...=3=

Not selling the house is exploitation now?

[Avera]

Not selling the house is exploitation now?

No, selling it...and exploiting the buyer when you KNOW its worth less than what you are selling it...Ill put the example of Matilda (Was on TV) Her father takes crappy cars and sells them for a lot more than they are worth.