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    As obvious as some of these things are (like win trading), SE has essentially justified them in the past. When people used to win trade wolves den, I'm fairly sure it was publicly stated people wouldn't be banned. And people were just asked to stop (which they didn't).

    So now people are using that to justify win-trading to rank up. Which essentially ruins the entire pvp ranking system (which is meant to be competitive) for people who are legitimately ranking up.

    My issue is that the ambiguity ruins a number of different in-game systems. And no one seems to be aware of whether or not things are reportable. People just debate the ethics of things (e.g. in the threads I linked to). But there is no concrete answer on whether or not it's ok. And a lot of people just assume no answer means it's alright to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    SE has essentially justified them in the past.
    Which essentially ruins the entire pvp ranking system for people who are legitimately ranking up.
    My issue is that the ambiguity ruins a number of different in-game systems. And no one seems to be aware of whether or not things are reportable.
    I do not even see your name on the leaderboard, how does win-trading even affect you? It surely hasn't ruined the people that have placed in the top 100.

    If you or anyone else is looking for a justification why not just report people in question and get an answer from the GM instead of posting so many topics about the same thing. It is not really your job to worry about every single person. How has this personally ruined anything in game for you? As they say threads with more thumbs up get more attention if you aren’t getting notice by now they obviously don't care so you should probably just spend your efforts in game reporting them to GMs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KooKooKachoo View Post
    I do not even see your name on the leaderboard, how does win-trading even affect you? It surely hasn't ruined the people that have placed in the top 100.

    If you or anyone else is looking for a justification why not just report people in question and get an answer from the GM instead of posting so many topics about the same thing. It is not really your job to worry about every single person. How has this personally ruined anything in game for you? As they say threads with more thumbs up get more attention if you aren’t getting notice by now they obviously don't care so you should probably just spend your efforts in game reporting them to GMs.
    I'd like to PVP next round (I couldn't this time as I was too busy IRL). But if people are just going to win-trade to get ahead, there isn't much purpose to spending hours slowly grinding my way up the ranks, when people will just boost each other a week before completion and overtake everyone who worked their way up there.

    Win trading will also deter other people from investing time in ranked PVP, which will make queue times longer.

    For example, when people started forming win-trade linkshells in the wolves-den days, the queue times shot up drastically. because most people just win-traded to get the gear, rather than pvp legitimately (which obviously took longer).

    By doing something simple like stating "Win-trading is against TOS", people who may risk win-trading/boosting to get ahead now, may decide it's not worth the risk. And thus Ranked PVP may remain somewhat viable as an actual ranked system.

    Further, not everything is about me. There seems to be something ethically wrong with the idea that an individual who cheats their way up the ranks will knock off a person who legitimately worked their way up. Someone may have spent 100 hours to get one of the pvp rewards, and lose it because an individual was able to out-rank them in a single day through "shady" means.
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    Last edited by Azurymber; 06-15-2016 at 03:33 PM.
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