Feast (Light Party) and Boosting

[KaitlanKela]

Okay, if you really just wanna PvP and against people with similar ping issues, that's cool. The wolves' den is still a thing. It's unfair to everyone else play the ranked and rewarded mode if you're going to make and play by your own rules.

BUT, I expect you'll claim the wolves' den's just not the same or whatever. It's pretty obvious what's going on.

[Szaveth]

If our win rates were exactly the same, I'd agree with you. and I don't disagree that it looks suspicious, but any set of data can be misinterpreted without additional information

I really don't like speaking on behalf of people but I don't feel like I have a choice: that guy is the one that I explained lives in the states and doesn't have the ping issues the rest of us experience. To boot, now he also is better than most at PvP because he gets to play FF all day, whenever he wants, during prime time, etc—he is retired
and I'm sure he doesn't exclusively queue with us. He only has PLD/WAR/DRK leveled, which is problematic when we switch up teams because he can only be swapped out for one roll where the rest of us are more versatile

He may have won a lot that day but historically that has not always been the case. When we first started playing the feast/den he actually lost more than not, he was not a very good pvp tank

[Dimitrii]

Remember when people used to say that the only PVP rankings that mattered was the Feast light party rankings and that the solo was a joke not to be taken seriously lol? I'd say the they both appear to be equally meaningless at this point, albeit for different reasons.

[Nezerius]

He may have won a lot that day but historically that has not always been the case. When we first started playing the feast/den he actually lost more than not, he was not a very good pvp tank

I'm sure there's absolutely nothing fishy about how your guy just happened to get +861 rating, moving him straight from rank 23 to 3. Totally no boosting there, he just may have won a lot!

/sarcasm

[Szaveth]

Okay, if you really just wanna PvP and against people with similar ping issues, that's cool. The wolves' den is still a thing. It's unfair to everyone else play the ranked and rewarded mode if you're going to make and play by your own rules.

BUT, I expect you'll claim the wolves' den's just not the same or whatever. It's pretty obvious what's going on.

I understand your point and respect your opinion, and thank you for being civil. You're correct, and we have played wolves den too, much more than we've played the feast, actually. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know by saying wolves den eventually gets boring, just like the feast eventually will. If PVP queues weren't so terrible during the time when I can play, I probably wouldn't care so much about losing due to ping... But 4+ hours in a queue (or no queue pop at all) only to be at a disadvantage stinks.
From my perspective, it wouldn't be fair to not be able to play the feast too

[KaitlanKela]

From my perspective, it wouldn't be fair to not be able to play the feast too

Disagree. If you are to be believed, your life circumstances prevent you and your friends from playing unless you essentially make your own rules, rules that put you and your buddies at a HUGE advantage in terms to ranking and rewards. It's YOUR life circumstances, not everyone else's playing the game. Why should THEY be penalized? Rather, you should have to deal with your situation in such a way that does not disadvantage everyone else.

Sorry Wolves Den "gets boring," maybe you need to move on to something else instead of finding your fun in what amounts to cheating in another mode.

[Atreus]

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Where to begin? Let's start with your post count being entirely this thread. I'm glad we could pull you from the shadows. I wonder if after being caught, you knew to monitor here?

Now let's go to the matches. Your boostee's team (the winning team), moved to the middle, ignoring the attack and defense boxes, and took minimal, almost automated action. Your losing team moved to the middle, again ignoring boxes, and took no action. So aside from admitting that at least one of your teams threw the matches, you've conjured the excuse of "we let you win for our ego." I'm sorry, but no you didn't.

I almost want to call botting, because you didn't have to take that third pop, yet you did. And before you realized it was us again, you were already in the game. In desperation, you tried to disconnect starting with your team's most-boosted member in an effort to conserve points.

Now let's go to the only activity from your 8 being centered on patch's arrival. Never mind, that speaks for itself.

If PVP queues weren't so terrible during the time when I can play, I probably wouldn't care so much about losing due to ping...

No. Do not complain about queue times if you're going to run away the moment you find a team. Furthermore, do not give the ping excuse, as we know plenty of people in Australia (and New Zealand :^) ) who do miles better than a bot can. AND FURTHERMORE, your connection issues are not justification for this behavior.

Now let's talk about your paladin that, according to you, suddenly got so good in the span of a few days that he's carrying every game he's in? So from the first day of your activity, where your teams all went ~50% winrate, he went to going 100% on the team he was on? Do please explain further.

Bottom line: Your group, on session 1, traded enough to get all 8 of you on the board. On session 2, you selected one person, your paladin, to propel all the way to the top. The minute you were caught, you tried to bail from the match to save points and ceased queuing from there.

You were caught, and you're putting up a story to save face.

[Szaveth]

Disagree. If you are to be believed, your life circumstances prevent you and your friends from playing unless you essentially make your own rules, rules that put you and your buddies at a HUGE advantage in terms to ranking and rewards. It's YOUR life circumstances, not everyone else's playing the game. Why should THEY be penalized? Rather, you should have to deal with your situation in such a way that does not disadvantage everyone else.

Sorry Wolves Den "gets boring," maybe you need to move on to something else instead of finding your fun in what amounts to cheating in another mode.

There's nothing stopping other groups for organizing so they get more queues if they so choose—organization is not cheating. It's like saying static AS groups are cheating because some people have to DF queue
I know people are very serious about their rating, and I'd prefer no one be penalized; I'd happily play an unranked 4v4 party Feast

[Sashazor]

There's nothing stopping other groups for organizing so they get more queues if they so choose—organization is not cheating.

Except it IS cheating. Organizing matches and setting it up so you win half and lose half is cheating. It's win trading. You are literally admitting to win trading. If you cared so much about PVP, why did you bail after 1 loss against the OP's team? You don't want PVP, you want the rewards...

Not only that, but your one friend won 47 straight matches in ONE DAY. How come you guys were 50/50 the first two "sessions" you played, but he suddenly became a god? I'm calling BS on this one. The rest of you remained at about 50/50 win/loss ratio too, which means you literally swapped this guy back and forth across teams to make sure he always won. How is that not cheating?

[KaitlanKela]

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What you are doing is cheating. You have admitted to it. Honestly, your intent doesn't matter. You cannot continue to do what you are doing in feast without penalty. Sorry that's harsh, but that's just the reality of the situation.