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  1. #21
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    Aion Zwei
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    no one doing behest?

    err...since when?
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    Aion Zwei - Masamune

  2. #22
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    no one doing behest?

    err...since when?
    Since it can be used in an argument to try to support a claim. Thing is, no one does Behest is correct in a sense as most people generally flocked to the popular ones, but given restrictions on it people actually spread out, so it may be a server based thing.
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    You're not doing these quests for the rewards... you are doing them because they are there man!
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    No one expects the miquote inquisition!!!

  4. #24
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    Aion's Avatar
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    Aion Zwei
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    Gladiator Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Since it can be used in an argument to try to support a claim. Thing is, no one does Behest is correct in a sense as most people generally flocked to the popular ones, but given restrictions on it people actually spread out, so it may be a server based thing.
    so its fallacy then. while you(in general) happens no finding someone doing behest on you camp right now, It doesnt mean no people doing behest at other time and other camps.
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    Aion Zwei - Masamune

  5. #25
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    Irana's Avatar
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    Index Labyrinthya
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigtyr View Post
    No one did behests because their rewards sucked.
    No one did sidequests because their rewards sucked.

    No one's going to do the Company leves/expeditions/supply/provision quests because..

    You guessed it.

    Their rewards suck.

    There's a defend a scholar company leve in Cassiopeia Hollow. You defend an NPC for a solid 15 minutes straight. Seal reward?

    40. 40 seals. For a 15 minute duration and a leve allowance.

    The supply/provision quests? 3 iron ingots for 6 seals? Really?

    The expedition? Good luck on finding anyone to do that quest with. From what I've heard, it's not much better, players earning anywhere from 25-80 seals a 20 minute run.
    Curious...I been doing all that crap for the SP... you only need to be in one place, no need to go back to town to pick newer leves...you can stay there for as long as you have leve tickets... solid 4k to 5k sp for company leves... what the hell are you complaining about?

    I do behests whenever I see teh npc because I love me some 5k sp free for my char... I tried doing chocobo caravan...it was fun but I couldnt solo it...

    IMO, you complain because you can and dont know how to take advantage of the little fun things the game offers you.
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  6. #26
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    Sakasa's Avatar
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    Sakasa Kuro
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    Balmung
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    Armorer Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    so its fallacy then. while you(in general) happens no finding someone doing behest on you camp right now, It doesnt mean no people doing behest at other time and other camps.
    Hey now. Watch it with all that logic. Your poking holes in peoples perfectly flawed arguments not meant to be contested just blindly accepted...
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  7. #27
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Odin
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    So where's the magical content that nets 10000+ seals an hour?
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  8. #28
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    Justalyne Relboron
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 50
    To the OP. I dispute your initial claims.

    "No one did behests" is untrue. I did. So did a number of members of my linkshell and even in the days before the patch I was nearly always sharing a behest with others.

    "No one did side quests" is untrue. I did. I can't say is anyone else in the game has done them, its not my problem.

    I would appreciate it if you didn't lump everyone in with your idea of how the game is to be played, everyone has different idea on how a game is to be played.

    I also dispute your conclusion.

    You cannot compare the rewards from a quest that can be done once to a repeatable quest. So far I have been getting 300 seals from completing the one off quests to be eligible to join a Grand Company (I haven't done this yet). Compared to that 40-60 seals for a repeatable quest seems reasonable. As pointed out, converting this to dark matter gives a reasonable amount of monetary value. The seals can also be put towards stuff you can buy from the company which is even more valuable as it can't be traded.

    I notice you were very careful not to say what you consider a suitable reward for your valuable time. What level of reward were you thinking of?

  9. #29
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    Esk N'tania
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    Balmung
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    I actually think the Seal rewards are about right, (maybe a 50% buff at most could be done after founders day stuff is over) They hand you s*** loads on main quests anyway..
    Sub quests you have to do a little grinding to get things ..

    200 seals for a buff parchment... so 10 bad expeditions, that's OK .. or 3 good ones, that's very easy.
    Gear .. OK that needs looking at cost wise I think, but this is just the start. atm id say its fine.
    It just needs balancing as they add ranks and such.

    If you got 200 seals + a run you'd have everything and 10k sitting in your pocket complaining you don't have anything to do/buy, so SE cant win with the I want lots of stuff for little effort and boo need more to do crowed.

    As they add things like breeding /combat/ more ranks / gear, they can add random rewards to these missions, things to make them more worth while without feeding us Seals so easy they are pointless. and you only get them on a great/perfect run:

    Greens to improve breeding
    materia based on the Guilds in the city (tradable)
    Company Arrows or throwing weapons (99/999)
    A SL buff potion / Temp buffs on gathering/combat/mount speed
    Guild Banner like the ones at the camps have
    Chocobo gear or Special GC Dye for gear to make it look like your GC and so on... ...

    Instead of just Complaining tell them how to improve it without just saying GIVE LOTS OF STUFF EASY and so on.
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  10. #30
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    High Potion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Cant believe you made the same mistake 3734732375 ppl did before you, talking about everyone..

    No one did behests because their rewards sucked.
    No one did sidequests because their rewards sucked.
    *Wrong
    *Right

    but they cant give omg cool 1337 rewards for something you can do every less than hour ...
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