is selling housing bannable?

[MomomiMomi]

Honestly, just leave it alone. If a GM sees it, they see it. Let them take care of it if they so choose. There's a tremendous amount of things to do in Eorzea - don't waste time submitting report forms unless you've been personally affected by an action (e.g. harassment).

I'm not advocating that people who are flipping houses go unpunished, I'm more so calling out the fact that if it is indeed a bannable/suspendable offence, the GM's likely have a Party Finder window just as we do and will take action if it's demanded precedence according to the roles/responsibilities outlined in their job description.

Just leave it alone. What, are you a GM tired of all the reports you've been getting? No? Then let them do their job. Don't worry about what other players are reporting.

[worldofneil]

the GM's likely have a Party Finder window just as we do and will take action if it's demanded precedence according to the roles/responsibilities outlined in their job description.

If they do I don't think it always works very well... when I see one in there advertising a house it's only got <15 minutes left so it's already been there at least 45 minutes and there's usually only 3 or 4 other parties so it stands out pretty clearly.

Do I report them? No, mainly because I can't be bothered/it's too much clicking, but I get the feeling SE don't do anything about them either unless reported so perhaps I should put in more effort/not be so lazy...

[Lan_Mantear]

If they do I don't think it always works very well... when I see one in there advertising a house it's only got <15 minutes left so it's already been there at least 45 minutes and there's usually only 3 or 4 other parties so it stands out pretty clearly.

That just indicates that bannable offense or not, players flipping houses are not a high priority for GMs to proactively handle. It won't be priority until players make it a priority. The first step in doing that is to flood them with complaints.

GM calls cost SE money. Industry standard is between $3 to $7 USD per issue handled. Enough of those can affect someone's bottom line, and will garner their attention faster than 1 million treads in this forum.

[Reinha]

It's not bannable. I can confirm this with my FC situation.

We wanted a large. We actually struck a good deal with someone to get their plot. We had to call a GM because two people were camping the plot to try and steal it from us the second it gets free. GM did come to help with situation, but the guys grew bored of waiting and left already. We clearly stated in the ticket we were buying the house from another, yet no punish and no warning. Hell, the GM took screenshots with us in front of our new house.

The GM should not have stepped in to help at all. The 2 other people happened to be in the right place at the right time and had an equal right to aim for the plot. Plots are not tradeable and hence you can't buy a plot from another player. Just because you gift money to another player doesn't mean other players aren't allowed to get a plot by buying it from the game. This is not stealing, it is a supported and intended mechanic to obtain housing.

Selling a house may not be bannable but it should certainly not be a supported action due to how ambiguous these kind of situations can be. What if the outsiders didn't know you had a deal going on? They would just see a house and get it in a way that they are supposed to. What then happens to the money? Another scenario, the 2 others are the buyer's friends and pretend to snatch the plot. The buyer then calls a GM to get his/her gil back, leaving the seller empty handed. What if the outsiders are friends of the seller? Seller gets money, releases the plot and the other 2 trade-spam the buyer and snatch the plot for the purpose of "selling" it again. Seller claims innocence.

The GM's are incapable of solving a he-said-she-said situation fairly because of how many types of abuse can be involved. They should absolutely not get involved in black-market sales like these. If they do allow players to practice house selling/buying it should be at the players' own risk.

[TacoBell]

why would it be bannable i dont understand its in game item/merch why would they care it doesnt break the game or anything

[Niwashi]

why would it be bannable i dont understand its in game item/merch why would they care it doesnt break the game or anything

No, actually it's not an in game item. It's a feature of the game. You're not selling it, just selling insider information about when it will be available to buy. The purchaser buys the plot from the game itself, not from the so-called "seller".

[YeaniNah]

I don't buy house. i wait for the system to change. people wait for new plot to buy as many and make money 2x - 3x the price. but the fact is i don't trust seller you could get scam easely you buy the plot. he release it but he don't sell the plot to you but release it anybody can buy it before you. so what is he got a friend waiting to snap it. and BANG you lose it and the guy who sold it say to : "it's not my fault you were to slow no refund". but you don't know the guy who bought it. is really his friend and they share to cash.And they do the same scam on the other side. so good selling systems you think?? for me NO. I use my FC house for now. I will never give money to those scammer

[papichulo123]

yes selling housing is against the sytem report those bad people

[Zelas]

It has been confirmed that Square Enix doesn't stand for the reselling of plots, and Yoshida personally asked anyone who sees it to report it so they can investigate and take action.

So yeah, we don't know if it's bannable, but it's definitely punishable.

[Colorful]

Yoshida specifically said selling it for "exorbitant costs" more than a few times, so as long as you're selling the plot for the amount you bought it for or slightly more you should be fine. I'd guess the intention for selling it would play a part also, planning to take an indefinite break? Sell it. If you bought it for the sole purpose of reselling, even for a small profit of a million gil I figure action will be taken.