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  1. #21
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    DON'T nerf either fight.. people need to learn to WORK TOGETHER in an MMO.
    Do you honestly think people will do that before they simply unsub and play something else?

    Personally, I'm wholly expecting a Nidhogg nerf. I haven't even done that yet, but if it's a MSQ wall with bad clear rates as people say, it'll be torn down sooner or later. No questions asked.
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  2. #22
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    Micromage's Avatar
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    Micro Mage
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    Jenova
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    Botanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    Really this! It's true in Nidhogg too.
    Work together in an mmo... this is duty finder where peeps aren't in vc together.. that's not possible. Casual gamers to hardcore raiders.. skill vary way too much for this content to be this hard. Simple as that. No more needs to be said. Nerf this EX level nonsense SE, thanks!
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  3. #23
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    Kerii's Avatar
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    Rune Venil
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Micromage View Post
    Work together in an mmo... this is duty finder where peeps aren't in vc together.. that's not possible. Casual gamers to hardcore raiders.. skill vary way too much for this content to be this hard. Simple as that. No more needs to be said. Nerf this EX level nonsense SE, thanks!
    I am totally blind in one eye, and three times legally blind in the other. If I can manage to get a duty finder clear you can too. o_<
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  4. #24
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I think Ozma's mechanics are fine, the biggest problem with the fight at least from what I can see is that there is literally little "room" for error, we've had massive arenas for our 24p raids so far and it was usually easy to avoid/scatter when people failed mechanics. Ozma however doesnt have a big enough arena to avoid poorly placed mechanics so stuff like meteors, laser, orbs, heck even the bleed thing ends up causing wipes cause its hard to get away from those not so quick players.
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  5. #25
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    They better nerf Wiping city of Mhach or make a normal version from it(!), or people stop playing in there due: its NO fun as it is >_>
    It is already the normal version
    But a Savage version for the 24man raids would be interesting

    How many can remember the first week of CT1 and how many wipes were there? And it got not nerfed, only overgeared with each patch
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-09-2016 at 06:42 PM.

  6. #26
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    Lithe's Avatar
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    Lithe Rhaelyn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pheryx View Post
    Losing all the players that refuse to get better could actually harm the game though from a business perspective. Difficulty can lead to a lot of people who are casual players to unsubbing from the game completely damaging SEs profits to help make more/ better content.
    Just because a player is casual doesn't mean they are bad. They might need to wait a bit longer for the baddies to unsub, but they can beat it. I don't think that many casual players will unsub after a week or 2 lol.
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  7. #27
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Everything gets nerfed eventually, whether directly or indirectly, and this patch's content will be no different.

    You making this topic is akin to trying to stop the tide.
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  8. #28
    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    Judah Brandt
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Sadly, regardless of how many of us feel and appreciate the effort they put into making a fun Raid, the "They better nerf Wiping City!" crybabies are going to win in the end. No one wants to communicate in an MMO, and they want all the rewards handed to them for the least amount of effort possible.

    People will retort that they're awesome and "23 other players were so bad" that it requires some kind of hand-holding since they don't want to try. For some reason, people can't handle dying in a dungeon. They cry for nerfs instead. I say leave it. If you want to upgrade your Lore gear, then just do Heavensward Hunts. It's actually infinite and faster and they can just roll over them. So yeah, if you can't handle something moderately, and I mean moderately because none of the mechanics in Mhachi are new since we've seen all of them for at least a year, then by all means avoid the content. Much like Savage, we know certain things aren't for everybody.
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    Last edited by Judah_Brandt; 06-10-2016 at 06:14 AM.

  9. #29
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    Lone-wolfe-02's Avatar
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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    To be honest i could care less. Nerf it if it'll make the babies happy i gave up trying to teach ages ago.
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  10. #30
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I don't know what is more outlandish; the people that want things nerfed immediately or the fervor of people literally begging the developers to not make anything easier.
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