3.3 AST adjustments

[DarkmoonVael]

I can't see Nocturnal AST being bad on Nidhogg Ex, but it's also easy enough that you can go with any healer composition and not care much.

There's no situation in the fight where spamming Helios (which is where Nocturnal AST has an edge over SCH in terms of healing) offers an advantage over SCH's CDs. I guess Akh Morn should be very comfortable to heal through with AST+WHM. Disable would beat Virus uptime for Ala Morns early on, I don't think it'd last long enough to cover Akh Morn though. There's also not a whole lot of running around in it, although I can see Lightspeed being useful for the High Jump/Geirskogul/Super Jump combo. Not sure how it'd go in terms of DPS, both WHM and SCH can have a lot of DPS uptime with Regen + fairy.

I'll try running it as Noct AST this week, although I really like having a fairy around and Indomitability definitely has a lot of value in this. My feeling is that Nocturnal AST would at worst be pretty decent at this fight.

I have ran Nidhogg ex as SCH, Diurnal AST and nocturnal AST. Nocturnal is weak there when learning. Indomnibility is just too powerful there when learning this place. SCH spends a lot of the first few phases dps'ing whilst doing some much needed triage healing (indom and lustrate), something that a Nocturnal AST can not mimic at all. The difference in shield potency between N.AST and SCH doesnt really do anything in N.AST favour, as the significant factor for this fight is SCH oGCD heals, Fairy, SCH personal dps and deployed adlo at the correct times. N.AST in this fight really suffers.

Diurnal AST is powerful here as main healer, but have no personal experience on WHM in Nidhogg Ex for a comparsion (i am guessing there is no real difference between a WHM ans D.AST in this fight with the slight exception of D.AST's disable at key points).

Yet to get the clear, but consistantly getting to, and part way through, the final phase. Also this is through partys consisting of some people i know and PF the rest, my raid group doesn't seem to be going in until this weekend.

[Kerrigen]

SCH spends a lot of the first few phases dps'ing whilst doing some much needed triage healing (indom and lustrate), something that a Nocturnal AST can not mimic at all. The difference in shield potency between N.AST and SCH doesnt really do anything in N.AST favour, as the significant factor for this fight is SCH oGCD heals, Fairy, SCH personal dps

Yeah, that's how it's worked for me as a SCH, and I'm pretty sure we'd lose raid DPS with me as an N.AST rather than SCH, and the card buffs definitely wouldn't make up for it. There's also a relatively large amount of combined healer DPS that just couldn't happen without a fairy. But my point is, this fight isn't hard enough for it to really matter in the long run. Let's be honest here, learning with a Nocturnal AST will always be rougher than learning with a SCH due to the difference in oGCD healing alone, but Noct AST will do fine here when all is said and done, and I'd at least encourage people to try.

In my experience, WHM will have an edge over Diurnal AST with the last Akh Morn in the last phase due to being able to use Cure III to make it feel like it never even happened but that's it.

[DarkmoonVael]

Yeah, that's how it's worked for me as a SCH, and I'm pretty sure we'd lose raid DPS with me as an N.AST rather than SCH, and the card buffs definitely wouldn't make up for it. There's also a relatively large amount of combined healer DPS that just couldn't happen without a fairy. But my point is, this fight isn't hard enough for it to really matter in the long run. Let's be honest here, learning with a Nocturnal AST will always be rougher than learning with a SCH due to the difference in oGCD healing alone, but Noct AST will do fine here when all is said and done, and I'd at least encourage people to try.

In my experience, WHM will have an edge over Diurnal AST with the last Akh Morn in the last phase due to being able to use Cure III to make it feel like it never even happened but that's it.

Yeah pretty much agree with everything you have written here. When learning this fight the healing combination matters, once its on farm its probably going to not so much matter.

Hopefully Nocturnal AST will get the love it needs to make it viable for learning.