Best 24 Man Raid in forever.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

I think Ozma needs a slight nerf. I dislike being at the mercy of other bad groups.

[Lemuel81]

I think Ozma needs a slight nerf. I dislike being at the mercy of other bad groups.

You could form your own. Give it some time, the raid is brand new. And lets be honest here, they can nerf it but that is not going to change anything because when it comes down to it. its about following mechanics and some (not all) will never follow mechanics. Look at bone dragon and Behemoth, ppl STILL wipe to that lol. Just not as much.

[Lambdafish]

You could form your own.

24 man is much harder to form than 8 man, so I disagree with your counterargument, even if I want ozma to stay exactly as is. My reasoning is that every encounter has a standard strategy that is generally formed and enforced within about a week. The reason that the fight is chaos right now is because so many people are new to it, and it will get gradually easier to beat as time goes on.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

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Generally you could somewhat pick up the slack of other groups if they were new or just weren't good at the fight, but Ozma makes sure each party is resposible for itself. Other parties can't help your party and vice versa, and that makes it much harder. Thats my only reasoning. People will get better, but its day 2, and I've run quite a few runs trying to get a gear peice and, hell even a clear for that matter, and I feel like it is literally impossible at the moment, due to incompetence or trolls.

[Knoahl]

Generally you could somewhat pick up the slack of other groups if they were new or just weren't good at the fight, but Ozma makes sure each party is resposible for itself..

As it should be when content with 3 parties in an alliance exists, not a roflstomp fest, healer LB3 is so useful in these fights with their low dos checks, trigger happy melee just need to stop using it ;/ i thought people falling off was too much at first for it, BUT then I realised they respond at the void circle which re appears on the platforms, you can suicide a lot of mechanics such as the adds to avoid them, as a healer I find this content really easy as there is just high damage no raid insta-wipes unless it's a dps check. So long as I live, I can still yet recover the fight so long as I know the mechanics.

That said a bad group will be a bad group, that doesn't bother me, all of the bad players will likely avoid it soon and just do hunts for 240 gear.

[Ekimmak]

Generally you could somewhat pick up the slack of other groups if they were new or just weren't good at the fight, but Ozma makes sure each party is resposible for itself. Other parties can't help your party and vice versa, and that makes it much harder. Thats my only reasoning. People will get better, but its day 2, and I've run quite a few runs trying to get a gear peice and, hell even a clear for that matter, and I feel like it is literally impossible at the moment, due to incompetence or trolls.

This is probably what makes Ozma a raid-breaker. If a party wipes completely, it's very hard to recover from that, because the corpses are all out of range, so for a healer to bring them back, they have to leave their current party, and end up at the mercy of whatever mechanic Ozma throws at them.

And then there are those times where lack of communication messes up a mechanic. Like today me and another DPS were marked with meteors, and we couldn't get away from each other. I would go to the end of the platform while he went to the end, and then when I turned around to go to the ring, he turned too... ended up dropping both meteors halfway between, and the raid ate a debuff because of it. I feel bad about that.

[Ilan]

This is probably what makes Ozma a raid-breaker. If a party wipes completely, it's very hard to recover from that, because the corpses are all out of range, so for a healer to bring them back, they have to leave their current party, and end up at the mercy of whatever mechanic Ozma throws at them.

And then there are those times where lack of communication messes up a mechanic. Like today me and another DPS were marked with meteors, and we couldn't get away from each other. I would go to the end of the platform while he went to the end, and then when I turned around to go to the ring, he turned too... ended up dropping both meteors halfway between, and the raid ate a debuff because of it. I feel bad about that.

If one group dies, it shouldn't be a problem for a heal to raise one of their heals. It becomes only a problem if all groups are doing bad.

And yes your problem with the meteors is the lack of communication. If people fix that, there wont be these issues anymore.