Dark knight

[Mattelot]

It's not official, it's my own metric.

It's just if you're not raiding, you're not being forced to play the class anywhere near it's fullest. You're not trying out new things to squeeze an extra tankbuster in your cooldowns, extra tankiness out of your existing cooldowns while pushing your DPS to the extreme.
And A5S is so easy these days (and when it was released), clearing it isn't much of a challenge.

What is the basis for your metric? That more or less sounds like elitist rhetoric.

[Violette]

What is the basis for your metric? That more or less sounds like elitist rhetoric.

I'm not going to ask an amateur chef for advice on how to cook fish, when I could ask a chef of 30 years experience in seafood.

Sure the amateur MAY be right, but he's lucky.
The chef with 30 years experience will know far more about it, and will have the experience I can trust in.

Dungeons/24 man's are so mind-blowingly easy from the tanks perspectives that you won't learn much from it. Midas Normal is also pretty easy, so it's only when we get into ACTUAL end game content.

There's a reason most groups faceroll "dungeon roulette: extreme". There's a reason most groups take 1-2 tries to clear all 24 man raids. So the average player can have fun, clear and get through relatively unscathed. There is nothing wrong with that.

But Faust forced people to do DAMAGE. You couldn't clear Faust week 1 with only 190 and ravana weapons, by not using enochian. You cannot clear Hummelfaust without knowing your damage rotations. You cannot solo tank Hummelfaust if you don't know your ability rotations. You can clear Sohr Kai and Hullbreaker hard without using a single defensive cooldown.

Hullbreak/Sohr Kai/Mhachi does not force you to stance dance. To squeeze out dps. To know fights inside out and tailor your rotation to a fight.
And that's the mark of a good healer/dps/tank. The ability to adapt and do their job well.

So until you've gone through that, you've not tested yourself. You can practice on a dummy all you like, but you're not actually getting good.

So that's why clearing A5S is what I call the benchmark for knowing ANY class. And even that's pushing it. My friends group's scholar didn't know what indom did, in A7S.

So you can call me elitist, but so what? What's the basis for your metric?