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  1. #21
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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant_Wilshire View Post
    Sorry for my ignorance, but why is there such a great desire to have a house? I have only been playing for a few weeks so my knowledge of the game overall is lacking.

    I was just trying to understand if the desire to own a house is just due to a desire to "own" something, or if there is a benefit to gameplay.

    Please don't attack me - just curious. Thanks!
    Because the only endgame incentive other than raid gear is glamour, mounts and housing. The game constantly throws at you furniture, walls, outdoor furnishings, materials etc., and it does it through retainers, primal fights, raid fights, treasures, dungeons, pretty much everywhere, skipping all this is your choice, but there are some that me that would've liked digging in. Granted, I'd buy a house even if there weren't all the existing features locked behind this system, I've always liked moving furniture and decorating small towns/gardens/houses (I loved Dark Cloud 2 and the construction minigame for instance), but it has got to a point where I'm inclined to think that people are just buying a house for the morbid feeling of seeing how exclusive they are and how many people are willing to sell their souls for one, because when you get to see the effort that the average player puts into decorating their house, you know they don't even care much about it, they just need to feel they are in possession of something exclusive. I know I spent hours and hours and hours decorating the garden of my house before losing it due to inactivity.
    I'm fairly convinced housing demand would be way lower if there were infinite plots and everyone could have access to one.
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  2. #22
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    Deceptistar Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant_Wilshire View Post
    Sorry for my ignorance, but why is there such a great desire to have a house? I have only been playing for a few weeks so my knowledge of the game overall is lacking.

    I was just trying to understand if the desire to own a house is just due to a desire to "own" something, or if there is a benefit to gameplay.

    Please don't attack me - just curious. Thanks!
    Its basically just a luxury.
    And most all like luxury if we can have it.
    But 2 things.
    - Players think they all deserve it. Which, is not suppose to be the case. Its first come first serve.
    - Greedy people abuse it by buying a bunch of them up just to resell them for profit which kills the fair 'race' to buy the houses.

    Thus all the QQ
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    I remember the Alpha days when even breathing lagged you

  3. #23
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    Roegadyn_Bear's Avatar
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    Dominant Bear
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    Exodus
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    No rage here, mostly because I already knew there wasn't really much of a chance when you have people purposely disrupting the process of buying a house, an entire Free Company out to buy and resell houses, lobby errors, and a queue time of over a thousand.

    I'm more surprised people didn't see this coming, though. Releasing new wards is pointless without changing how the system works first, even more now that they dropped the prices on houses.
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  4. #24
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    Taco Supreme
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Very unhappy about this. Actually considering unsubbing. Was disappointed when this came out and I didn't have enough gil to afford a house, but I worked hard and saved up more than enough which took past the point when they added more land the first time. Then felt screwed back in December when they had the reclaimed houses show up at a random time during the middle of Christmas Day. Had family stuff to do and couldn't sit in front of this all day and missed that opportunity. Here (for US players) it was in the middle of the night on a school/work day but I stayed up all night anyway because I really want a house badly and after fighting through lobby server errors and a queue of nearly 1000 players on Gilgamesh, everything I was interested was gone even though I logged in as fast as it would allow me to. I tried, but couldn't make it to any of the last few houses that remained before they were gone.

    They really should have locked out people that already own one or more houses on any character on their account for at least the first 24 hours or something to give people a chance to buy their first one. I'm not paying another player more than the cost of the land to have a chance to still also pay full price for the house. FC housing is nice, but it's really best for the leader and their few closest friends that can actually decorate the house and make it the way they want it. I don't really want a room or an apartment when all the rich kids have a whole house and yard and many of them have several. I'd would have definitely considered moving to another smaller server before this if I could have brought all of my gil with me. What's the point of moving for housing if you can't afford a house after you've moved?

    The way housing was implemented in this game is so very cool and yet at the same time, probably one of the worst feature it has...
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  5. #25
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    Falanyr's Avatar
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    Raeth Xura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roegadyn_Bear View Post
    No rage here, mostly because I already knew there wasn't really much of a chance when you have people purposely disrupting the process of buying a house, an entire Free Company out to buy and resell houses, lobby errors, and a queue time of over a thousand.
    Pretty much this^. Myself and my FC worked to save that extra gil to buy a large plot only to have these pricing cuts implemented. Kinda expected the rush, but like a fool I got my hopes up for patch day! As soon as I got that first lobby error I knew that taking the time to wait out the patch was a wasted morning.

    So...No rage to deal with, just crushing disappointment. I can't even begin to understand why they added so few wards after dropping the prices so much as well.
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  6. #26
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    Alaina Claire
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    I threw my interest in a house in tke fk-it-bucket a long time ago...more upset about moogles being crafter only.
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  7. #27
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    Velisra's Avatar
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    Te'mariel Fheydra
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    Rafflesia
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    The fact that people want to unsubscribe due to housing is honestly silly. Yeah I get the system may be slightly messed up, but is anyone throwing out any ideas to SE on how to fix it? Or are we just complaining without trying to even help?
    Guessing you haven't spent a lot of time in the Housing section of the forum. If you had, you would know that many people, myself included, have presented many ideas to better and/or fix the system. Obviously, we're not just complaining about it so that we can read our own posts and feel better.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptistar View Post
    Its basically just a luxury.
    And most all like luxury if we can have it.
    But 2 things.
    - Players think they all deserve it. Which, is not suppose to be the case. Its first come first serve.
    - Greedy people abuse it by buying a bunch of them up just to resell them for profit which kills the fair 'race' to buy the houses.

    Thus all the QQ
    Sorry, but all players DO deserve a house should they desire one. We all pay the same monthly fee to play the game, and we all should have equal access to the same game features. Like someone else said in another thread, you don't bring cupcakes for only half the class.
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  9. #29
    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Diana Prince
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Velisra View Post
    Guessing you haven't spent a lot of time in the Housing section of the forum. If you had, you would know that many people, myself included, have presented many ideas to better and/or fix the system. Obviously, we're not just complaining about it so that we can read our own posts and feel better.
    Nope sure haven't, haven't seen many housing threads lately either, besides today because of the obvious. And in this particular thread that's all there was, which is why the comment was made in this thread.

    If the only time housing issues threads pop up is when new housing is released it's doubtful that SE will consider any actions. Reason I say this is because it's the first few day/s, and they expect people to be mad, but they also expect people to get over it. Which as said if threads only pop up once in a blue moon, SE is bound to over look the typical displeased patch-players. Tried explaining that the best I could, hope you understand what I'm saying.
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  10. #30
    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velisra View Post
    Sorry, but all players DO deserve a house should they desire one. We all pay the same monthly fee to play the game, and we all should have equal access to the same game features. Like someone else said in another thread, you don't bring cupcakes for only half the class.
    With this saying though, SE fails in so many more ways than housing then. Because personally, I don't craft and have no form of gil income, and so I, and people like me, miss a lot of things, for example new glamours that people feel the need to price insanely high just because. And then GEAR and Materia (thankful for the Void Ark Materia feature).

    The way the FF economy works is pretty much, you either craft a lot and sell things or you're sol. And as you stated, we all pay for this game, I shouldn't be inclined to craft if I don't want to.
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