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  1. #371
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    otarolgam's Avatar
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    C'qhataia Ixa'ris
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    I think mostly load times here are the huge factor. Because PS3 user's load times affect anyone entering a dungeon. We just sit there for a few minutes waiting for them to load in...

    That is to say nothing of the effects on the PS3 user themselves. Such as making it to hunts because of loadtimes, etc.
    I had a SSD on my PS3 and it made the load times fine that people weren't bothered.
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  2. #372
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    They wont change the way the characters works, neither will change graphic engine (The FFXIII one).
    They already changed that.
    ARR don't use Crystal Tool. 1.0 did.

    But yes, they will not change the engine again without another rebuild.
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  3. #373
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Do not expect bigger changes, that won't happend.
    I don't think players will expect bigger changes (at least not any more than they do now) , but I think its safe to expect less excuses and more developer freedom. I'm pleased with the variety that the devs have tried this expansion (for better or worse, they tried at least), we had diadem, Lords of verminion, deep dungeon, aquapolis, and more will come soon. All I want is for yoshi P and the team to have more breathing room on what is possible within the game, and to utilise this freedom (Inb4 airship battles)
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 06-05-2016 at 06:48 PM.

  4. #374
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    CuteWhisper's Avatar
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    Cupcake Monster
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I do think PS3 is holding back the game. Im pretty sure that's why we don't have tons of customization for character creation and more customization also in game period. Now let's just hope they won't come up with other excuses to change or add things when they will stop supporting it
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  5. #375
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    Zomkei's Avatar
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    Decayed Corpse
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    snip
    This is slightly off topic, but how did you manage to quote the wrong person, lol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Do not expect bigger changes, that won't happend.
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  6. #376
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    The issue has been touched on by the devs before i believe, and it mainly due to how the japanes player base regards console upgrade compared to western market. The western market is fast to embrace new consoles, with a quick uptake on upgrading the ps3 unit to a ps4 unit. The japanese market is slow to embrace new released consoles and sticks with what we call "last-gen" for a substantially long period of time. This means a larger proportion than expected of japan se players still use a ps3 to play games like FF14, which leaves a conundrum for the devs: keep supporting ps3 keeping the revenue stream intact from these players, whilst using this money to create the content. Graphical changes have to be made on a platform by platform basis (ie pc gets direct x 11, 3.3 brings enhancements to ps4 only) and having some memory issues server side (i am not sure if this is due to ps3, but people seem to attribute it to the ps3). OR cut off ps3 support, potentialy lose a large amount of revenue from ps3 players not upgrading to ps4, lose a large amount of your native countries playerbase. Loss in revenue may mean small scale oatches for the entire player base. BUT then people get the memory issues resolved, the graphical issues resolved and then the devs can start experimenting with different styles of content that were held back by ps3 memory issues.

    The ps4 is not holding the game back, maybe the ps3 is in regards to memory issues and graphical issues, however this is offset with increased revenue from ps3 users, allowing for more content to be developed.

    One thing is clear though, without console release and support from 2.0, this game would have been no where near as successful as it has been.

    I cant find the source about the devs talking about japanese players uptake on ps4 issues, but this article helps shed some light on it http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/..._playstation_4

    TL;DR its yes and no.
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  7. #377
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    Hiraki's Avatar
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    Azul Hikari
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    PS3 is definitely going to drag this game down if they don't cut support for it in the near future. PS4 I don't feel will, it runs decently enough as is and can only get better when Sony pushes the PS4 Neo. That being said, I still prefer to play on a PC.
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  8. #378
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    Syhrwyb's Avatar
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    Syhrlona Haldhaerzwyn
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 70
    They need to drop the PS3 and upgrade the servers ASAP. I'm so tired of hearing about limitations!
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  9. #379
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    The games design holds it back more... >w>
    With the all instanced content like dungeons, trials, and raids, there is a lot of data transferring going on. SE can't have too much data, so stuff like Character Customization has been simplified. :B
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  10. #380
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CuteWhisper View Post
    I do think PS3 is holding back the game. Im pretty sure that's why we don't have tons of customization for character creation and more customization also in game period.
    Except that...it's not. We don't have customization because the dev-team and the playerbase had stated that they don't care about customization since only the most efficient path matters. Blame the players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Syhrwyb View Post
    They need to drop the PS3 and upgrade the servers ASAP. I'm so tired of hearing about limitations!
    Just stop hearing from uneducated players, then. Just a reminder, the PC and PS4 versions already have many things that the PS3 does not. So the only one who are "limited" by the PS3...are the PS3 players.
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