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  1. #101
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    Khanscott's Avatar
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    Aevis Sylph
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    Midgardsormr
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    Bannable. Not bannable. I really do not care. All I know is that crap like house selling is why I keep getting /tells from gold sellers.
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    Happiness is manditory.
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  2. #102
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    Xatsh's Avatar
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    Xatsh Vei
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    People sell houses all the time and do not get banned. So the act of selling houses I would say is not banable. No different then selling runs. You can sell whole free companies for gil technically.

    The act of buying houses to prevent others from getting them unless they pay insane prices, it is more or less impacting others ability to play the game and that is banable per the tos.

    So it depends on the intent. If someone buys a house... then immediately trys to sell then I would say they are at risk of getting banned. If someone has a house then trys sells it months down the line. I do not see anything ever happening to that person.

    AS for the people buying all the houses to just resell... yes that should be bannable. But the act of selling a house itself should not be bannable.
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  3. #103
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanscott View Post
    Bannable. Not bannable. I really do not care. All I know is that crap like house selling is why I keep getting /tells from gold sellers.
    And you're going to keep getting them as long as gil exists, or until they make it completely worthless.
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  4. #104
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    It's not bannable. I can confirm this with my FC situation.

    We wanted a large. We actually struck a good deal with someone to get their plot. We had to call a GM because two people were camping the plot to try and steal it from us the second it gets free. GM did come to help with situation, but the guys grew bored of waiting and left already. We clearly stated in the ticket we were buying the house from another, yet no punish and no warning. Hell, the GM took screenshots with us in front of our new house.
    In this case the GM should not have taken any action because they can't steal a plot that never belonged to you. You gave payment to have someone relinquish the plot, opening the plot up for everyone. Only when you purchased the plot via the placard could they have had any opportunity to steal it from you (which I don't see as possible without them being part of your fc and permissions changing hands due to an absence of the fc leader and probably wouldn't count as stealing anyway). It was nice of them to show up though, but I'm wondering how it would have played out had the other players stuck around.
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 06-07-2016 at 10:59 AM.

  5. #105
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    Nico Nico
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    Quote Originally Posted by papichulo123 View Post
    if it is why are people still doing it?
    Is using 3rd party tools parsing game data is bannable?
    If it is why are people still using it?

    And why the top RAIDER using it and YoshiP still loves them so much?
    So I got the conclusion, the answer for your question is trying to be the top TRADER ^^;

    Rule: use it as your own risk, don't tell others, officially disallowed and unofficially allowed.
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    Last edited by Nicobo; 06-07-2016 at 10:33 AM. Reason: 1000

  6. #106
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    Selli Noblesse
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    I think it's a case by case thing.

    If someone were to say, sell their house because they didn't desire a house anymore, were planning on quitting, or their friend/significant other/FC got a (usually larger) house than the one they have, so they wanted to sell and get some of their money back. I think they're allowed to do so without getting in trouble.

    However, buying up multiple houses (especially on the same account) and then sell them at a very high cost just to make Gil I'm pretty sure is the one that people get in trouble for. Since this is what happened when they added subdivisions and when the first 45-day auto demolition thing.

    I'm not 100% sure. I've never bought or sold a house. The house I have now I got when I inherited my FC so I have had no need (or the money) to ever get involved in the housing market. But I'm almost positive there is a line that can be crossed where it goes from being "we don't like it, but we'll look the other way" to being "you're in trouble for doing this".
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  7. #107
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    Xiao Ming
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    I think the best way to stop flipping a house is have an option to sell the plot back to SE for purchase price or abandon the plot. SE takes control of the plot either way and uses some type of rng timer over 7 to 14 days for when the plot will randomly come back up for sale. The randomness would prevent flipping cause you can't sell a plot to a person with the certainty they would want to get it. Either way, sell to SE to remove profit and flipping will stop.
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  8. #108
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    Nex Ixchel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millen1 View Post
    I think the best way to stop flipping a house is have an option to sell the plot back to SE for purchase price or abandon the plot. SE takes control of the plot either way and uses some type of rng timer over 7 to 14 days for when the plot will randomly come back up for sale. The randomness would prevent flipping cause you can't sell a plot to a person with the certainty they would want to get it. Either way, sell to SE to remove profit and flipping will stop.
    I actually really like this idea.
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  9. #109
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    Frederick Chronos
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    hey i have been seeing people selling houses in pf but how exactly do i report?
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  10. #110
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    Greydor Hylian
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Honestly, just leave it alone. If a GM sees it, they see it. Let them take care of it if they so choose. There's a tremendous amount of things to do in Eorzea - don't waste time submitting report forms unless you've been personally affected by an action (e.g. harassment).

    I'm not advocating that people who are flipping houses go unpunished, I'm more so calling out the fact that if it is indeed a bannable/suspendable offence, the GM's likely have a Party Finder window just as we do and will take action if it's demanded precedence according to the roles/responsibilities outlined in their job description.
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