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  1. #91
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    It's closer to scalping than bribery.
    And most places don't allow scalping either.


    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Player casinos aren't against the ToS, but people have been given warnings for spamming chat with them.
    Well, gambling is specifically mentioned under Prohibited Activities:

    3.6 Any Illegal Activities. You may not conduct any illegal activities whatsoever in connection with the Game. This includes every illegal activity not specifically highlighted above, including without limitation gambling, defamation, harassment, and fraud.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 06-07-2016 at 07:52 AM.

  2. #92
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
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    casino's aren't against ToS as taru said.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    And most places don't allow scalping either.

    Well, gambling is specifically mentioned under Prohibited Activities:

    3.6 Any Illegal Activities. You may not conduct any illegal activities whatsoever in connection with the Game. This includes every illegal activity not specifically highlighted above, including without limitation gambling, defamation, harassment, and fraud.
    The problem with that is you are scalping/gambling with something of no monetary value for something of no monetary value. It's like playing poker with chips given to you, and not receiving any cash for how well you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zelas View Post
    Also, depending on how it's done, runs/pony sale is closer to paying for a service than anything. It's something one can do themselves with time and practice, but that they think is faster/easier if they ask someone more experienced to help them with it.

    No matter how you look at it, house flipping is a blatant rip-off. They know you cannot otherwise get what you want, so they try to profit from it. So in that sense, it's worse.

    I do get what you mean, though, and I agree. But that hardly makes the house reselling any more justifiable, imo.
    It's getting a payment for your time and gil spent, and being in the right place at the right time.
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  4. #94
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    Zelas's Avatar
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    Ciel Valke
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    It's getting a payment for your time and gil spent, and being in the right place at the right time.
    No, it absolutely isn't. And the fact you're entertaining the idea that it's okay to think someone's entitled to extra money for their "time and gil spent" (as you call it) is baffling to me. No matter how you put it, it's a dishonest practice. Your attempt at justifying it doesn't make it any more honest.
    It's simple. If you want a house, you buy it, you use it, then you dispose of it. Housing resale isn't programmed into the game. Housing isn't an item. It's not craftable or farmable, and it's not meant to be resold after the initial purchase. Doing so is 100% exploiting.

    If you want to buy things and resell them higher, go back to the Market Board.
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  5. #95
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    Naesaki Ashwell
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    I remember an individual on my server who had been reported of scamming people out of large sums of money through the whole /random higher or lower game, apparently this individual even streamed when she was doing this to twitch.

    I mean ultimately it was the other players fault for agreeing to betting 200k+ in gil and handing it over before the game began and then them getting extremely angry when they didn't win.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelas View Post
    No matter how you put it, it's a dishonest practice. Your attempt at justifying it doesn't make it any more honest.
    It's simple. If you want a house, you buy it, you use it, then you dispose of it. Housing resale isn't programmed into the game. Housing isn't an item. It's not craftable or farmable, and it's not meant to be resold after the initial purchase. Doing so is 100% exploiting.
    You calling it dishonest doesn't make it that way.

    You don't like it, so you equate it to immorality. It's the same argument used against capitalism.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You calling it dishonest doesn't make it that way.

    You don't like it, so you equate it to immorality. It's the same argument used against capitalism.
    Your condoning it doesn't make it right either.
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    "I'm OK. This rock broke my fall."

  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelas View Post
    Your condoning it doesn't make it right either.
    ...both of you are right....it's an opinion...(with the idea of it being good/bad)
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    Last edited by Musashidon; 06-07-2016 at 08:53 AM.

  9. #99
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    It's not bannable. I can confirm this with my FC situation.

    We wanted a large. We actually struck a good deal with someone to get their plot. We had to call a GM because two people were camping the plot to try and steal it from us the second it gets free. GM did come to help with situation, but the guys grew bored of waiting and left already. We clearly stated in the ticket we were buying the house from another, yet no punish and no warning. Hell, the GM took screenshots with us in front of our new house.
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  10. #100
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    How many live letters and events have the FF14 team done since Christmas? Glad to see ignore and hope it goes away policy is still in affect for housing. Is it so hard in six months to make official stance?

    I am going to go out on a limb and say the whole player base says housing is a horrible system (deleted bad words I wanted to type). Anyone who has stayed has accepted that this is the punishment (system) we are going to get. They are doubling down on the broken housing wards. They can at least for an appropriate response to all current situations that have been brought forward.
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