Patch 3.3 (Trailer) Discussion (2.x - 3.2 Spoilers)

[Theodric]

Death has already been cheapened rather significantly in FFXIV. I don't think it'd be a good thing for yet another character to return from the dead - especially since it was stated that 3.0 would be a darker expansion. If anything Ratatoskr returning from the dead would make things worse because the countless Ishgardians murdered by the Dravanians would not return from the dead. Realistically that would just breed contempt and spark a fresh conflict. In fact, I'm actually hoping that we don't make peace with the Dravanians. None of them have come across as particularly likeable to me - unless you count the more minor dragon NPC's out there.

[Cilia]

Death has already been cheapened rather significantly in FFXIV.

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In fact, I'm actually hoping that we don't make peace with the Dravanians. None of them have come across as particularly likeable to me - unless you count the more minor dragon NPC's out there.

I wouldn't say that it's been cheapened. Maybe they overplayed the drama a bit, but there was enough ambiguity and tragedy with the fate of many victims in 2.55 to leave death a serious thing.

[Tracewood]

There's plenty of death to go around with minor NPCs and some more well known ones.

And don't forget poor Edda... whoa.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

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I'd hate the entire 3.0 story if the entire effort of the peace treaty was for naught. I don't like having my time wasted if I see that everything we did accomplished nothing and the status quo remained. No, I'm not saying everything should be ice cream and sprinkles, but a story that basically pulls the rug out from under you and goes "HA HA! Things are gonna stay the same!" makes me want to punch the writer.

[Fenral]

I'd hate the entire 3.0 story if the entire effort of the peace treaty was for naught. I don't like having my time wasted if I see that everything we did accomplished nothing and the status quo remained. No, I'm not saying everything should be ice cream and sprinkles, but a story that basically pulls the rug out from under you and goes "HA HA! Things are gonna stay the same!" makes me want to punch the writer.

I mean, that's what pissed me off about the 3.0 ending: all of that work, but in the end everyone we traveled with was was dead and Nidhogg was back in control of Dravania like he had never left. Obviously we'll still have dragons to fight in a couple of zones, but can't they just be the last few stubborn stragglers like the XIVth legion?

Most likely, nothing will change in the short term, but we'll be assured that we've laid the groundwork for things to be sorted out in The Future™.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

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Even you have to admit that the way we "killed" Nidhogg in The Aery so easily had to have people guessing that he wasn't dead. Spoilers. He wasn't. I wouldn't view 3.0's ending as total hogwash though since we did kick start the progress of peace between dragons and Ishgard and even Midgardsormr finally had his eyes open to the truth of his son going too far. If absolutely nothing changed, then yeah that's a bad story. But we gotten some changes whether we liked how they were applied or not.

[Nalien]

In fact, I'm actually hoping that we don't make peace with the Dravanians.

Do you really mean peace, or just an alliance? I cannot see an alliance happening any time soon, like most of the Dravanians have said; It will take generations to bridge the gulf created between their people.

There absolutely has to be peace though... Ishgard can't still be at war with the Dravanians after all this, else the entire expansion was basically pointless... Dravania wont be joining the Eorzean Alliance, as it were, but they absolutely should be a peace, however uneasy, between Ishgard and Dravania now... Anything more than that is unlikely though, else I'll be questioning why we don't just have an army of dragons assisting us during future engagements with Garlemald... I imagine they'll take a more Sharlayan attitude from here on, staying out of our affairs with a few oddballs occasionally helping us...