Friends of mine, new to the game, becoming discouraged by STORY QUESTS

[ohmRICE]

And, you do realize this is an MMO right, not a single player game? God forbid some people came for the multiplayer part and don't look forward to hours and hours of single player grind in order to unlock it. You'd think mothers were being insulted with the knee-jerk reactions this thread has provoked.

The multiplayer aspect isn't locked until you complete the story though. You can actually play along side your friends while going through the story together, you can still chat with other players (though you'll not be able to join in when they start talking about the most recent story addition), and partake in your normal multiplayer activities.

In fact, you can't progress through the story without playing with other people! There's no soloing Sastasha!

[CodingSquirrel]

You can do multiplayer beginning with Satasha Baby at story level 15. You don't need to be in Heavensward to do it.

The multiplayer aspect isn't locked until you complete the story though. You can actually play along side your friends while going through the story together, you can still chat with other players (though you'll not be able to join in when they start talking about the most recent story addition), and partake in your normal multiplayer activities.

In fact, you can't progress through the story without playing with other people! There's no soloing Sastasha!

After I unlock that first dungeon, no matter how much I play it or how far I level I can't do anything but that single dungeon unless I do hours more of the story.

[LaylaTsarra]

After I unlock that first dungeon, no matter how much I play it or how far I level I can't do anything but that single dungeon unless I do hours more of the story.

Tam-Tara Deepcroft is Level 16 and unlocked a couple story quests (not hours) after the Satasha. Copperbell Mines is level 17 and is also just a few story quests after Tam-Tara. You should know that so why try and exaggerate in order to try and make a point. You can also play those dungeons to get plenty of experience to unlock the next dungeons series.

Can we at least debate with some honesty?

Pot calling the kettle black I would say.

[ohmRICE]

After I unlock that first dungeon, no matter how much I play it or how far I level I can't do anything but that single dungeon unless I do hours more of the story.

Unfortunately video games typically require certain requirements to be met before certain content is unlocked. You can't go to the Pokemon League without getting all your badges, kiddo.

Still have access to the multiplayer content though, just not all of it.

[CodingSquirrel]

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Congrats, you've found a specific scenario where unlocking a series of dungeons is only done in a short period of time. Well done. Point still stands.

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You don't have to beat the elite 4 before you can trade and battle your friends. In an MMO not everyone comes for the story, or is interested in the story first. Some just want to get to the content they want to play with their friends. And just playing low level dungeons over and over isn't going to keep either of them very entertained for long.

[ohmRICE]

You don't have to beat the elite 4 before you can trade and battle your friends. In an MMO not everyone comes for the story, or is interested in the story first. Some just want to get to the content they want to play with their friends.

You can't control traded Pokemon over a certain level however unless you have the proper badges, correct? I'll have to go through hours of story to get better native Pokemon and moves unless I want to battle using the same few Pokemon I could only catch in the grass right outside the starting area.

And I do really have to ask why do none of these people complaining about not being able to play with their friends....ask their friends to run through the story with them? I mean, I've helped my friends through old content in order to get them up to speed and we still had fun playing together even if it wasn't in the newest freshest content.

If we wanted to bring lore into this then why are you able to go back and replay those zones once you've beaten them. Based on lore, those enemies should be defeated. You can either handwave it or assume the player (not the character) is time traveling. Gaining access to places you shouldn't yet is effectively the same thing, but in the other direction.

That's actually explained in the lore too. It's the Echo allowing you to re-experience your "memories" of the dungeon.

[CodingSquirrel]

And I do really have to ask why do none of these people complaining about not being able to play with their friends....ask their friends to run through the story with them? I mean, I've helped my friends through old content in order to get them up to speed and we still had fun playing together even if it wasn't in the newest freshest content.

That may be fine for you, but I don't find having a bunch of over leveled friends accompanying me for simple single player fetch quests all that fun.

That's actually explained in the lore too. It's the Echo allowing you to re-experience your "memories" of the dungeon.

Why do my memories have different people in it?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

That may be fine for you, but I don't find having a bunch of over leveled friends accompanying me for simple single player fetch quests all that fun.

Then that's on you. All instanced content are level and/or item level synced anyway. If you don't want your friends helping you because of that reason, then I dunno what else to tell you.

[ohmRICE]

That may be fine for you, but I don't find having a bunch of over leveled friends accompanying me for simple single player fetch quests all that fun.

Why do my memories have different people in it?

1.) I don't know what to tell you then. Most people typically enjoy talking to the people they call their friends.
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2.) A lot of stuff has happened to the poor WoL, give them a break if they can't remember if the healer was a Miqo'te WHM or a Roegadyn SCH.

[Niwashi]

Congrats, you've found a specific scenario where unlocking a series of dungeons is only done in a short period of time. Well done. Point still stands.

No, the point doesn't still stand because that "specific scenario" is the only scenario in which your point (if it were true) would have been relevant. You claimed that unlocking the first dungeon leaves you with only one dungeon you can run until much later in the story. The truth is that you unlock four dungeons and a trial in very short order and always thereafter have at least that many to choose from. Obviously, the further you go, the more other choices you also have, but you're never stuck at only one or two options.