Friends of mine, new to the game, becoming discouraged by STORY QUESTS

[bass9020]

Why do all MMOs have to be the same? This is something ill never understand ever and will never accept it. I play FF because its an FF game I don't go in thinking oh I'm going to play this like WoW or Rift or Tera. Then sit here and complain because the features aren't the same. Play those games for what they offer just like play FF for what it offers.

[AngeloFlick]

ITT: This game is too FF, make it more WoW plz.

Lol.

Can't please everyone, such is life. As far as I am concerned the best thing about this MMO is how heavily story centric it is. If came expecting something else then I think that is a problem you made for yourself like if I bought CoD and then complained that is too centered around shooting. Maybe you could try WoW instead, they let you buy with RL money your way to level cap officially without having to put up with much of a story. I am sure SE could trim some of the story quests in terms of when asks for fetching 20 x items they could reduce to 5 x items but in terms of story quest quantity...that should remain how it is.

Why do all MMOs have to be the same? This is something ill never understand ever and will never accept it. I play FF because its an FF game I don't go in thinking oh I'm going to play this like WoW or Rift or Tera. Then sit here and complain because the features aren't the same. Play those games for what they offer just like play FF for what it offers.

All of this. Seriously, how many MMOs on the market are story driven the way FFXIV is? This is my biggest pet peeve about the current MMO player base, everyone wants all the games to be alike. If I wanted a game that played like that I would be playing.... WoW. Or Tera. Or Rift. Or whatever.

How about this novel concept-
FFXIV does not and should not cater to the entire MMO market because no other game does what FFXIV does.
I've been playing MMOs since 2001 and burned out on EQ, EQ2, Guildwars, WoW and etc 5 years ago. If FFXIV was like all the others I wouldn't be playing it, or WoW (or any other of the dozens of shitty WoW clones) or any other MMO. I'd be off playing single player or co-op games with my spouse.

If someone doesn't like FFXIV because of the MSQ that's not a slur on them or on the game. It just means this isn't the MMO for them and that's ok. Different games for different people. But don't come in here and demand that this game change one of the core mechanics that makes it unique just because it's outside your comfort zone.

[Yasuhiro]

Why do all MMOs have to be the same? This is something ill never understand ever and will never accept it. I play FF because its an FF game.

That's the problem, sorry if I'm generalizing but a lot of WoW players do move over here and expect WoW 2.0, like I said before, I don't know what rock these people live under and not know what FF is about when they hear about XIV. A lot of these people making complaints will get bored of FFXIV and go back to WoW once Legion comes out so they can collect their boar butts. Seriously, people, Final Fantasy is a recognizable brand that's been around for years, do some research on it before coming over to this and complaining about Final Fantasy tropes, you just get laughed and be told to go back to World of Warcraft most the time on image boards and other forums.

Edit: You don't have to like XIV's story, I most certainly don't I think it's hot garbage but it comes packaged with a numbered FF title and I'm fine with that, I'm a Final Fantasy fan and I am this game's target audience.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

I see a lot of people accusing people who complain of being ex-WoW players or that they hate story. The example I gave in the beginning of this thread was neither. My Brother and his GF, aren't planning on quitting over this, they seem to be in for the long haul they have just been slowly becoming more and more annoyed with it. It's understandable really, that long stretch of quests at 50 lack something.

Do you see any threads complaining about the story in the leveling process between 1 to 50, no and why is that? What that has over the long stretch at 50 is your own characters progression. You maybe doing some quests that seem trivial at time, those "fetch" quests, but they seem less boring and monotonous because you are progressing your character. During the level 50 quest wall, you are no longer progressing your character you're stagnating. Players can feel that. The quests themselves basically all give no reward besides story and some don't even give that.

I do not want to be able to skip the story, but they need to streamline it. A lot of the quests during this time were plain busy work to keep us placated until the next patch. Many do not contribute to the story at all. Like when we needed that cart to make a delivery, but the driver's chocobo was smelly and wanted the player to get him some chocobo perfume to help. That is not important to the story arc. SE could go through determine now which are story essential and which aren't and make them side quest or MSQ based on their content. I can help right now a lot of the quests that involve the actual set-up of the new base are not story essential, movers can do that off screen and nothing of value would be lost.

Just food for thought.

Edit: Dumb character limit!

[Skinypupy]

I enjoy the story but admit that I struggle a bit with it, especially during the small chunks that are doled out with each patch. When they start referencing characters or events that I first saw 3 years and 1,000+ hours ago, I often find myself entirely lost.

Does anyone know if there's a story summary/refresher somewhere that I could take a quick look at to get back up to speed?

[Nici]

I do not want to be able to skip the story, but they need to streamline it. A lot of the quests during this time were plain busy work to keep us placated until the next patch. Many do not contribute to the story at all. Like when we needed that cart to make a delivery, but the driver's chocobo was smelly and wanted the player to get him some chocobo perfume to help. That is not important to the story arc. SE could go through determine now which are story essential and which aren't and make them side quest or MSQ based on their content. I can help right now a lot of the quests that involve the actual set-up of the new base are not story essential, movers can do that off screen and nothing of value would be lost.

I agree with you to a certain extent, but at the same time quests like these like the what you gave an example of...finding chocobo perfume where it's kinda a silly little chore you have to do...i think it adds a little flavor and humor to the MSQ, some people might find it annoying and just fluff material...but others like myself enjoy the little extra flavor and humor in these silly fetch quests lol, each person is different in what they enjoy or don't enjoy of the MSQ and SSQ (side story quests).

[Velisra]

That's the problem, sorry if I'm generalizing but a lot of WoW players do move over here and expect WoW 2.0, like I said before, I don't know what rock these people live under and not know what FF is about when they hear about XIV.
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Just so you know... There are probably at least a few others like me who really have no idea what "FF is about" at all. Call me a clueless gamer, whatever. I've never been into consoles and while my kids played other FF titles when they were younger, I didn't pay a lot of attention to what it was all about. Why would I?

For the record, I did come here from WoW during Blizzard's "maybe we'll let you fly in WoD, but wait, no we won't let you fly... oh okay fine then, but you have to do x, y and z, AND a, b and c before you can fly, and it will be weeks, not months, before you can" BS, but I LIKE the story in FFXIV. I didn't expect anything necessarily and I was put off initially when I looked at FFXIV some time before the flying kerfuffle in WoW because in FF you MUST do group content to progress and level your character--and I HATE group content. I decided to try it out anyway after reading about it on the WoW forums.

So, the story is fine, I just wish they'd make it so I could do the story but the dungeon/trial bit was optional. /shrug

Different strokes for different folks.

[Yasuhiro]

Just so you know... There are probably at least a few others like me who really have no idea what "FF is about" at all. Call me a clueless gamer, whatever. I've never been into consoles and while my kids played other FF titles when they were younger, I didn't pay a lot of attention to what it was all about. Why would I?

That's fine, but you'll always be the minority though a lot of people and I mean a lot, play this game because it's a Final Fantasy title. I'm not even being elitist about it there's no rule stating which FF to start with but it just seems really pointless to complain about FF tropes/staples and for the record I do hate all the BS WoW tier quests in ARR that I wish were cut down like Titan's quest chain seriously that reminded me of why I played WoW for an hour.

also lol, got a bit of deja vu :P

Different strokes for different folks.