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  1. #3421
    Player
    XxDeeDevilxX's Avatar
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    Nymira Beringar
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    Odin
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    in both my level 60 roulette and expert roulette I got tanks that did not use a single cooldown, I was a WHM
    I understand if you're well geared and blahblah that you can pull off using less cooldowns, but not using any? wtf D:
    they didn't die or anything, it's just that I had to pull out a lot of heals just to keep them alive and it's really frustrating when they're in ilevel 230 gear
    Funny thing was in ex roulette that the WAR started tanking in deliverance at one point, yet, NO COOLDOWNS.
    If you're going to tank in dps stance, at least have the mind to use Bloodbath or Foresight or something D:
    oh and this particular tank was 1.) a mentor and 2.) pointed mobs etc. towards party, so we either had to move to the other side or eat damage. Not big of a deal, just annoying

    //rant over
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  2. #3422
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XxDeeDevilxX View Post

    //rant over
    this so much this. Yesterday, I was runing some dungeons, mostly the Vault. Not a single tank, be it PLD, WAR or DRK was using a single CD.Not one and this the entire fight, when told, they were using it once and then hop back to start. They were not overgeared, they were first timers in the Vault and it was a nightmare, not using CDs and standing in aoes...ugh

    On the other hand, I had a very nice run in Shiva EX. 75% were new, first timer, the MT tank fortunately wasnt (OT was). So some explanations were taking place. Our group was just fanstastic. We met enrage timer, but we were surviving, we started over 3x and we beat Shiva with 2mn remaining on the timer. That group was fantastic. Deaths were positional death from people that are not totally familiar with a run and not anything else. People knew their staff listened, asked questions and we progressed. I have rarely had to use 2x healer LB (1x at 3 bars) and 1x at (2 bars) in same run but those two lb made the trick. My co- healer was amazing and the dps were fantastic, the BRD were giving mana when needed not even being asked, DPS was just good, moves were good and 3/4 had no knowledge

    Sometimes I wonder if healers do not forget that we dont need to have the 3 bars up to save the day, using it to give back health to players will be (sometimes) a better choice then bringing back to life the dead ..as there will be NO weakness penalty and that is far far far better, from now on I will try to use that LB more visely. We beat Shiva not with LB but with will....that was just one of the best and most memorable fight I had in a very long time.

    We were all standing there wondering how we made it. It was one pack of enraged players beating Shiva to her death just because none of us could believe that we would be failing at 2mn(wish I had taken a picture)
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  3. #3423
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    Tithian's Avatar
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    Sadira Veilik
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    I am really fucking sick of tha shit of "watch a video" thing. Those never played a videogame in their life or what? Recuring guides instead of learning by his own and impossing to others... What a videogamers...
    A while ago I was going through the MSQ to unlock the HW classes (late comer, eh) and I queued for Keeper of the Lake, only to be dumped into a group with 4 'sprouts'. Of course no one knew the tactics for the bosses, and we went about it learning the encounters on the fly. We died, screwed up a lot etc. but it was tons of fun going in as complete newbies and getting it done (eventually).
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  4. #3424
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    revonine's Avatar
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    Morri Umi
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Doing The Vault to level my White Mage. Tank was wearing pre-50 Aetherial gear. even saw a level 15 belt, level 37 pants etc. Died instantly to the first pack of mobs. He/she had a class at 60 already, and we were pleading with him to change to other gear. I checked and English was selected as his only language. Gotta have been a troll. I mean I can't fathom anything else.
    That isn't even the best part. The Bard in the party was saying he was unfortunate to get him in another abandoned run before this and he had the cheek to blame the healer for pre-casting Regen before a pull and blamed said healer for the deaths.
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  5. #3425
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    Reiryuu's Avatar
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by revonine View Post
    Doing The Vault to level my White Mage. Tank was wearing pre-50 Aetherial gear. even saw a level 15 belt, level 37 pants etc. Died instantly to the first pack of mobs. He/she had a class at 60 already, and we were pleading with him to change to other gear. I checked and English was selected as his only language. Gotta have been a troll. I mean I can't fathom anything else.
    That isn't even the best part. The Bard in the party was saying he was unfortunate to get him in another abandoned run before this and he had the cheek to blame the healer for pre-casting Regen before a pull and blamed said healer for the deaths.
    Hehehe nice to know there's a tank worse than me out there. Leveling WAR I was so scared to death of tanking the vault I leveled WAR solely on FATES and beast tribe quests. I did take PLD and DRK through the vault though and it wasn't so bad on them. lol

    I have another one from today... WOD: Tank (our group was the main tank group) decided to... well I'm not really sure what he was thinking. Never standing still boss shooting attacks all over the place... Eye boss was total chaos kept shooting half the raid with the eye laser and the floor mechanic was... @.@ Half our group died and he pulled the 2nd trash area group with half our group locked out including the other healer. It wasn't a totally big deal and we got through it fine... then he killed an entire group with White Breath at a bad time on the 5 headed dragon, and Cerebus was a total mess too. At least the cloud was pretty hard to mess up =p
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    Last edited by Reiryuu; 05-30-2016 at 10:43 PM.

  6. #3426
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    NaesakiAshwell's Avatar
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    Naesaki Ashwell
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Did the 50 roulette with my irl friends yesterday, 2 of us were summoner and the other was healing on Scholar.

    We ended up in Hullbreaker Isle, oh this should be fun as it has slightly gimmicky bosses. Anyway first set of mobs the warrior decides to pull from the bottom of the hill all the way to the top of the hill and a bit further on, my healer friend is like okay I can handle this if he keeps the aggro. However the tank clearly couldn't handle it, he didn't keep aggro on half of the mobs and our healer friend died from being overwhelmed.

    So the three of us politely tell him off him for pulling way too much if he can't even keep aggro of them all.

    So we asked him to pull a bit less so he responds with "Np, gonna go afk now. Good luck finding another tank, Not my fault the healer is butthurt."

    So we had to wait 5 minutes to boot him which we did.

    We decide to press on as two smn and sch, so we both summoned our titan-egi and the run went really smooth (we still had it searching for another tank but another never joined). The last boss took some trial and error with the final tentacle as it would not stay still long enough for it to be attacked, the AI was really derping out at the lack of a 4th person.

    We reported him right away and within minutes the GM's resonded saying they were looking into his behaviour.
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  7. #3427
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    revonine's Avatar
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    Morri Umi
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    I have another one from today... WOD: Tank (our group was the main tank group) decided to... well I'm not really sure what he was thinking. Never standing still boss shooting attacks all over the place... Eye boss was total chaos kept shooting half the raid with the eye laser and the floor mechanic was... @.@ Half our group died and he pulled the 2nd trash area group with half our group locked out including the other healer. It wasn't a totally big deal and we got through it fine... then he killed an entire group with White Breath at a bad time on the 5 headed dragon, and Cerebus was a total mess too. At least the cloud was pretty hard to mess up =p
    Oh you encountered a Tank the Hedgehog. Yeah I love those especially the ones that spin the mobs around like crazy when I'm trying to Monk xD

    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    So we asked him to pull a bit less so he responds with "Np, gonna go afk now. Good luck finding another tank, Not my fault the healer is butthurt."
    Kinda...was his fault :P I always laugh when a tank decides to sulk in lower level dungeons if there's a Summoner in the party he's not necessary at all.
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    Last edited by revonine; 05-31-2016 at 04:43 AM.

  8. #3428
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    Ronove's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Rinh'sae Poales
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    We decide to press on as two smn and sch, so we both summoned our titan-egi and the run went really smooth (we still had it searching for another tank but another never joined). The last boss took some trial and error with the final tentacle as it would not stay still long enough for it to be attacked, the AI was really derping out at the lack of a 4th person.
    Actually, I think the AI derps out if a pet has aggro on it. I did a run a little bit ago and it was aggroed on Eos and would just not cooperate for the longest time for someone else to get aggro.
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  9. #3429
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    XxDeeDevilxX's Avatar
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    Nymira Beringar
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    Odin
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
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    omg even more terrible if that happens in the Vault D: that place hits like a truck, awful to heal a tank who's new and doesn't use CD's, I feel you >:
    for some reason I keep getting tanks that just don't use it. From someone's who's leveling I can understand eventhough it's horrendous
    but from a tank with ilevel 230 gear.. it's sort of unacceptable in my books, unless you're so tanky that you won't die either way

    aahhh I love runs like those! I've been wanting to queue in random extremes, but afraid of what I'll encounter with all the horror stories out there
    Nice to see you had such a great run though, sounds like a group I'd love do things with :3
    Nothing feels better than beating enraged ex primals with new people, hell, even with people who know the fight very well!
    Until now I've rarely used healer LB, but I have seen people save groups from wiping with it. Guess a lot of people don't understand healers can do a lot with an LB xD
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  10. #3430
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    Slirith's Avatar
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    Astarotte Niuhali
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Did leveling roulette when it reset(got Brayflox normal), healer bailed after first boss. We tried getting a healer via friends/FC by joining in progress but never was put into ours. So I as a SMN was asked "Try healing?". I gave the go ahead and we ended up trioing the dungeon as no healer joined. Let me tell you healing Aiatar was nerve wrecking with only Physick.
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