Mystery Girl in Palace of the Dead

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Of course it's going to be Edda. As if SE would expand on their game world any instead of just reusing the same NPC's over and over and over for everything.

Expanding on a popular NPC's back story is a bad thing nowadays? No wonder there's no memorable characters/writing in any media lately.

[Kaurie]

Expanding on a popular NPC's back story is a bad thing nowadays? No wonder there's no memorable characters/writing in any media lately.

Gonna agree with Thunda Cat here. Recurring characters and character development are good things. If this was some new character, it'd be pretty meh. Will definitely be better if it is a character we've seen before (unless it's Mide)

[KaitlanKela]

The only way I could see it being Edda is if there are optional floors or areas in Palace of the Dead that are only accessible under certain conditions, i. e. completion of Tam Tara HM. And these areas give extra story and lore, but aren't required for completion. From a lore perspective, if someone hasn't cleared TTD hard, Edda is still alive, so it wouldn't make sense for her to be a creepy WHM shade.

Whether or not Edda would wear a loli dress is pure speculation.

[AdventZero]

Expanding on a popular NPC's back story is a bad thing nowadays? No wonder there's no memorable characters/writing in any media lately.

Want her back story, here it is: She failed to heal her tank, who was also to dumb to stick near the party. After he died she went crazy and killed most of the rest of her party trying to necro the tank back. Along comes the god slayer to put her down. The end.

My comment was more of a personal thing. Many of my favorite NPC's get a major lack of screen time. One of which is Raya-O. Seeing as how this takes place in Grid area I was hoping she'd play a role in it, have some "back story expanded" for her. Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case again. I could go on and on, but I don't think anyone will care. Is fine though, I'm use to being hated for liking the uncommon characters.

[Kaurie]

Want her back story, here it is: She failed to heal her tank, who was also to dumb to stick near the party. After he died she went crazy and killed most of the rest of her party trying to necro the tank back. Along comes the god slayer to put her down. The end.

My comment was more of a personal thing. Many of my favorite NPC's get a major lack of screen time. One of which is Raya-O. Seeing as how this takes place in Grid area I was hoping she'd play a role in it, have some "back story expanded" for her. Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case again. I could go on and on, but I don't think anyone will care. Is fine though, I'm use to being hated for liking the uncommon characters.

That is fair, I am sure we all have favourite characters that we'd like to see more of. Personally, I loved Edda's story. That moment when you first run into her and her party at low levels is like the _only_ thing I remember from sub 50. For some reason that little interaction really stuck with me. I guess it felt relatable to some extent, and thus I felt a bit of a connection to her and her story. Her return later was just amazing. I'd be all down for more story writing of that caliber.

[Nestama]

Want her back story, here it is: She failed to heal her tank, who was also to dumb to stick near the party. After he died she went crazy and killed most of the rest of her party trying to necro the tank back. Along comes the god slayer to put her down. The end.

Not quite. Edda's story is told throughout Tam-Tara HM (the notes). She was in denial and decided to go adventuring with Avere's head (her home town was too small for her liking now that she saw the world for herself)... which did not help her sanity (one note implied she shared a kiss with Avere. Pretty gross). She eventually learned how to put souls into corpses (sometime after her visit to Thanalan and possibly Coerthas) and after raising Liavinne from the dead (who was killed in the Waking Sands by the Garleans), she sent out the wedding invitations.

She probably learned how to raise the dead from some Alchemist or something.

Ever since, she haunts the playground in Gridania (and possibly other places, but the playground is the only notable area people know of).

[AdventZero]

text limit, sorry.

Ah, see I missed all this. I wasn't around when the dungeon was added so I had to crash course it with no time to take in the sights. Maybe I'll go back in sometime unsynced and take a better look.

text limit again, sorry.

Indeed, I don't mean to disrespect others likes. Glad their favorite characters are being focused on. It just gets to one after a while of seeing missed chances patch after patch.

[Enkidoh]

Not quite. Edda's story is told throughout Tam-Tara HM (the notes). She was in denial and decided to go adventuring with Avere's head (her home town was too small for her liking now that she saw the world for herself)... which did not help her sanity (one note implied she shared a kiss with Avere. Pretty gross). She eventually learned how to put souls into corpses (sometime after her visit to Thanalan and possibly Coerthas) and after raising Liavinne from the dead (who was killed in the Waking Sands by the Garleans), she sent out the wedding invitations.

She probably learned how to raise the dead from some Alchemist or something.

Ever since, she haunts the playground in Gridania (and possibly other places, but the playground is the only notable area people know of).

Except that is not entirely correct - as it was stated time and again throughout the game that to truly revive the dead is almost impossible (because to revive a soul would theoretically require it to be pulled from the Lifestream, by which time it would have simply diffused into it,

remember just how much trouble it was to get Y'shtola back from the Lifestream and she technically wasn't even dead!)

. No, so-called 'necromancy' isn't actually reviving the dead at all, instead it just ends up summoning a voidsent which possesses the corpse, and this is what happened with Edda -

she didn't revive Avare at all, but ended up summoning a voidsent into Avare's head, turning him into a kind of ahriman. This was also what happened in Tam Tara NM with Galvanth and the Lambs of Dalamud, that wasn't the real King Galvanth at all, but a mindflayer wearing his name(and presumably what's left of his body).

Despite what Edda might have believed in her grief-stricken insanity, she had not 'resurrected' Avare's soul at all - he had long returned to the Lifestream, the River of Aether if you will, but instead summoned a demon that wore his head as a meatsuit. It also explains all the 'rejected bodies' found in Tam Tara HM, these were also voidsent she summoned. In the end she wanted to use the player's own body for 'Avare', showing she had well and truly gone beyond all reason and sanity.

I still believe Edda's fall into the dark arts was at the very least nudged on by an Ascian, as it just seemed such a flip from when we last saw her, promising to return to her hometown and concentrate on being a better healer (her lack of aptitude in Conjury is after all what cost Avare his life in the first place), to summoning voidsent and going completely insane (and such a thing is well and truly within the Ascians MO). But then, grief can really make you lose all sense of reality if have no one else to turn to or help you.

But I digress....

[MomomiMomi]

But then what about Liavinne's line during the dungeon?

Urgh.. I told them she was weird....but they wouldn't listen...

Seems like that's really her to me.

[EdwinLi]

SE does have a habbit of making new content more connected to old content instead of the level where the content is at.

3.0 is one, and a big, example of such that a lot of dialogues involving Estinien and Dragoon related factors of the 3.0 Main storyline is based on if the character has completed the 2.0 Dragoon Storyline or not.

Not to mention encounters with Godbert also affects the dialogue as depending if a person has finish a certain Hildy S1 quest or not affects how Godbert reacts to the player's character in the low level special events.

SE could easily slip in that Edda became this mystery girl no matter if a character complete Tam-Tam Hard or not with adjustment of small dialogue changes implying that the WoL was there to witness the moment she became the Mystery Girl in Tam-Tam Hard through her own death or if WoL did not complete Tam-Tam Hard the dialogue explains how she died since the WoL and Paiyo never entered Tam-Tam Hard.