How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[JackFross]

Recently reactivated my sub after a bit of a hiatus.

Lemme restate a thing!

The optimal opener without a potion as far as I have been able to discern and test is:

H>[delay>BL]>ID>[IR>B4B]>Dis>[BotD]>CT>[LegS>PS]>4th>[Jump]>P>[DFD]>TT>[SSD]>VT>[gsk>LifeS]>FT>4th

Tips and tricks:
Be sure to delay BL, B4B, IR when used alone in a single spin. It'll net you +1 GCD under the buff.
Geirskogul is a fluid cooldown - even though it has a 10s timer, it can always be delayed to be the last one. You just need 3 per 60s - you're not using it on cooldown ever!
BotD is used BEFORE Disembowel in the opener because you wanna get the potion just before CT. It'll last for CT up through the crit Full Thrust. It also helps ease re-casts of BotD later down the road.

[seekified]

You're clipping after your Chaos Thrust. Jumps should always be used on their own, else you will clip the next GCD.

You're also (potentially) missing Disembowel bonus on your Leg Sweep, but that's a minor inefficiency.

Lemme restate a thing!

The optimal opener without a potion as far as I have been able to discern and test is:

H>[delay>BL]>ID>[IR>B4B]>Dis>[BotD]>CT>[LegS>PS]>4th>[Jump]>P>[DFD]>TT>[SSD]>VT>[gsk>LifeS]>FT>4th

Great input - will get back to the drawing board/dummy and readjust muscle memory accordingly.

[BalmungAzuresky]

Hey guys, I am currently on A6S and would like to get the best gear I can get before reaching A7S and A8S.

Here's my char :

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2972761/

I just bought the ilvl220 crafted body (no materias on it yet) and I don't wanna mess up.

Here's my actual gear on Ariyala :

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/U8QR

I can probably get one more part of the Lore set this week (don't know which one I should get and what kind of materia to put on it) and same goes with the crafted body (someone told me to go full DETER on it). I would like to upgrade to something good enough to keep going till A8S and from there, if we ever manage to clear it, farm the Midas stuff.

Any recommendations ?

Thanks !

Edit :

Tried my best to get something "decent" before I ever get the chance to farm Midas stuff and this is what I can get without messing too much with SS etc.

Update :

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/U8SB

Which provides the following stats :

STR : 1192
ACC : 705
CRIT : 1041
DET : 534
SS : 657

Recommended SS seems to be 652 so I would be a bit above that, but not sure if it's going to affect Geirskogul.

If you think I can get something better than that, let me know please.

Edit (2) :

Tried another setup :

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/U8VA

STR : 1197
ACC : 712
CRIT : 1045
DET : 563
SS : 645

Less SS and more STR, ACC (enough for A8S), decent CRIT and DET. I feel like I could be using this until all A6S/A7S/A8S stuff can be farmed with my FC, but I'll wait for you advices before jumping on it.

[JackFross]

ACC cap for A8S is 699 frontal, not the 710 or w/e it says in the first post. It hasn't been updated lately.

I would personally aim for:

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/U91N

You drop SKS to a nicer ~600 value while bolstering Det, Crit, and Strength. You also maintain necessary Accuracy. All I changed was the two Det +6 melds to Crit +9 and swapped your boots to the Slipstream with 1 Acc IV and 1 Crit IV melded in.

[BalmungAzuresky]

Yeah I was using that post to build my set but thanks for providing a new one. I'll probably be using it until my FC can beat all the savage turns (and I am not expecting that anytime soon).

[Ninjah2r]

anyone can explain what is better? lore earring or midan earring? saw dervy going with midan, but I thought lore would be better since crit.

[MiniTyra]

Everything is Multiplicative. So if you have a Hot Shot and Trick Attack up on the same time, it's 1.1*1.05 = 1.155, rather than 1.15. As for the amount of "averaged" DPS a Ninjas Trick Attack provides to a player/raid, it's 1+0.1*10/60 = 1.01666666667, or 1.6667% Raid DPS.

In regards to gear, Dervy is actually doing a complete overhaul of his set. He's getting Augmented Gloves, Belt and Earrings swap once he gets the Twines/Coats and dropping to 558 SS (well, 558ss + ss from lore weap)

[Ninjah2r]

alright thx for letting me know man

[MiniTyra]

What are some very commonly asked topics/misunderstood concepts about the Dragoon which haven't, or have been poorly addressed thus far? Dervy is doing a complete overhaul of his original guide and wants to make sure that every possible topic has been covered; and yes, AoE rotations/DoT management will also be included.

[seekified]

What are some very commonly asked topics/misunderstood concepts about the Dragoon which haven't, or have been poorly addressed thus far? Dervy is doing a complete overhaul of his original guide and wants to make sure that every possible topic has been covered; and yes, AoE rotations/DoT management will also be included.

I'd like some updated pointers on how long it's worth holding positionals to get the extra potency (I believe the short answer before was "it's not"), and also an included potionless opener for us advanced-but-not-wealthy types. Can't think of much other than that.