Fairy Glam

[Rawrz]

The thread isn't just about carbuncles. It's just that SE PROMISED SMN more Egis. I'm just hoping that when the first SMN goes live that both SMN and SCH get carby back, SCH sharing in SMNs' fortune. After they have devoted enough resources to glamour for SMN and feel that the SCH community (and possibly MCH) would react fantastically to more glamour options, like palette swaps or a male varient, they could dedicate additional resources to those projects.

[Blackcanary]

The thread isn't just about carbuncles. It's just that SE PROMISED SMN more Egis. I'm just hoping that when the first SMN goes live that both SMN and SCH get carby back, SCH sharing in SMNs' fortune. After they have devoted enough resources to glamour for SMN and feel that the SCH community (and possibly MCH) would react fantastically to more glamour options, like palette swaps or a male varient, they could dedicate additional resources to those projects.

SCH never really had Carby in the first place Arcanist did. And once you decided to become a SCH you lost all connection and ability to summon him. You lot need to stop saying you want SCH to have him back because you never had him in the first place. Also if they did allow SCH to summon caby as a healer they would have to recreate new animation and call him a different kind of carbuncle maybe even change the colour of him. I doubt SE will do this since it will take resource from something else maybe to make this happen and if they did that then they might as give SMN new real Egi's instead of a crappy glamor. This has all been lazy work from Yoshida team. They really didn't think the hole Egi and Fairy's through properly. I think they expected SCH and SMN to be happy with what they had done. *sigh*

[Rawrz]

SCH never really had Carby in the first place Arcanist did. And once you decided to become a SCH you lost all connection and ability to summon him. You lot need to stop saying you want SCH to have him back because you never had him in the first place. Also if they did allow SCH to summon caby as a healer they would have to recreate new animation and call him a different kind of carbuncle maybe even change the colour of him. I doubt SE will do this since it will take resource from something else maybe to make this happen and if they did that then they might as give SMN new real Egi's instead of a crappy glamor. This has all been lazy work from Yoshida team. They really didn't think the hole Egi and Fairy's through properly. I think they expected SCH and SMN to be happy with what they had done. *sigh*

Just because I'm a healer, doesn't mean I'm not an Arcanist. Scholars are EQUALLY built around the Arcane as SMN are. Bio II, Miasma, Bio, Bane, Eye for an Eye, Super Virus, RUIN? Any of these skills seem the same? You are an Arcanist at your roots. Its not like when you became an SCH you were like.. Whats a Carbuncle... Never heard of that food before!

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Ruby Carbuncle, has traditionally been a support Carby. An Opal carbuncle could easily be a healer. But yeah your input is noted and thanks for the bump.

[VanillaWafer]

Whats a Carbuncle... Never heard of that food before!

Then I HIGHLY advise you to not google that. No joke.

Anyway, I'd like to think Pet Glamour would utilize our minions in some way. Much like Verminion, each minion has a type. If SE used that system to divide which minion would be suited for a particular pet, I'd be happy. Why not utilize them?

[Indiction]

SCH never really had Carby in the first place Arcanist did. And once you decided to become a SCH you lost all connection and ability to summon him. You lot need to stop saying you want SCH to have him back because you never had him in the first place. Also if they did allow SCH to summon caby as a healer they would have to recreate new animation and call him a different kind of carbuncle maybe even change the colour of him. I doubt SE will do this since it will take resource from something else maybe to make this happen and if they did that then they might as give SMN new real Egi's instead of a crappy glamor. This has all been lazy work from Yoshida team. They really didn't think the hole Egi and Fairy's through properly. I think they expected SCH and SMN to be happy with what they had done. *sigh*

The heck kind of argument is this? ACN is the base class to both SCH and ACN, both had it, both have the right to have it again in the future. I'm all for SMNs getting egi glamours and stuff but all I've seen is whining and moaning about how they're not 'new' summons and if a SCH dare say he/she wants even the carby's it's like they insulted their mothers . _. They're getting a whole egi glamour system but I've seen most summoners here just complain and complain and jump on any scholar/mch who says they want the same :#

[tjw]

The heck kind of argument is this? ACN is the base class to both SCH and ACN, both had it, both have the right to have it again in the future. I'm all for SMNs getting egi glamours and stuff but all I've seen is whining and moaning about how they're not 'new' summons and if a SCH dare say he/she wants even the carby's it's like they insulted their mothers . _.

Actually, Blackcanary is correct in that SCH has NEVER had access to Carbuncle. Not ACN. Not SMN. Purely SCH access.

SMN gets to use Carbuncle before they do their job quests. Summon and Summon II still summon Emerald and Topaz Carbuncle respectively if you haven't received the Garuda/Titan-Egis. SCH on the other hand instantly get their summons replaced by the faerie; in that sense, the SCH job has never had carbuncle, nor does it have the right to it.

[Indiction]

Actually, Blackcanary is correct in that SCH has NEVER had access to Carbuncle. Not ACN. Not SMN. Purely SCH access.

SMN gets to use Carbuncle before they do their job quests. Summon and Summon II still summon Emerald and Topaz Carbuncle respectively if you haven't received the Garuda/Titan-Egis. SCH on the other hand instantly get their summons replaced by the faerie; in that sense, the SCH job has never had carbuncle, nor does it have the right to it.

No, I knew that summoners got to use Carby's a little bit longer. The fact stands that ACN is still a part of SCH as well as SMN. ACN has Carbuncles and every person who has ever EVER wanted to become and has become a SCH has used a Carbuncle. The same as SMNs want to use Carby's cuz their's got turned into Egis is the EXACT same reason SCHs want to use Carby's too. Just 'cuz SMN got to use Carby's for a few more levels doesn't justify throwing out the window the fact that SCHs *DID* use Carby's, even if it was just in ACN form.

[Blackcanary]

No, I knew that summoners got to use Carby's a little bit longer. The fact stands that ACN is still a part of SCH as well as SMN. ACN has Carbuncles and every person who has ever EVER wanted to become and has become a SCH has used a Carbuncle. The same as SMNs want to use Carby's cuz their's got turned into Egis is the EXACT same reason SCHs want to use Carby's too. Just 'cuz SMN got to use Carby's for a few more levels doesn't justify throwing out the window the fact that SCHs *DID* use Carby's, even if it was just in ACN form.

You seem to be funding it hard to understand, SCH was never able to use Carby. When u first used the job stone you was not able to use Carby.
That's what we are saying/trying to explain when people say

" Bring Carby back to SCH."

People need to stop acting like you was able to summon Carby when you became s SCH because you didn't. You never had the spell to summon him as a SCH. Now I would I understand if that spell was avaliable when u first use the SCH stone. Then suddenly SE made it so u could no longer summon him. Like they did with SMN. But you couldn't and they didn't do that to SCH. So why should SCH get something back that they never had in the first place.

You like Carby you want SCH to have the ability to summon him that's fine. I'm all about that life cause Carby is bad ass. But they would have to work it into the lore which is easy on their part. But people need to stop stating things that is not fact.

[Indiction]

You seem to be funding it hard to understand, SCH was never able to use Carby. When u first used the job stone you was not able to use Carby.
That's what we are saying/trying to explain when people say

" Bring Carby back to SCH."

People need to stop acting like you was able to summon Carby when you became s SCH because you didn't. You never had the spell to summon him as a SCH. Now I would I understand if that spell was avaliable when u first use the SCH stone. Then suddenly SE made it so u could no longer summon him. Like they did with SMN. But you couldn't and they didn't do that to SCH. So why should SCH get something back that they never had in the first place.

You like Carby you want SCH to have the ability to summon him that's fine. I'm all about that life cause Carby is bad ass. But they would have to work it into the lore which is easy on their part. But people need to stop stating things that is not fact.

Never once in my post did I say SCH could use Carby's, friend. You seem not to have read...any or most...of my post but okay. I said ACN was able to use Carby's.

ACN has Carbuncles and every person who has ever EVER wanted to become and has become a SCH has used a Carbuncle.

Just 'cuz SMN got to use Carby's for a few more levels doesn't justify throwing out the window the fact that SCHs *DID* use Carby's, even if it was just in ACN form.

Now that we've cleared up those errors in reading, again I state, ACN was a part of SCH. Do SCHs magically stop becoming ACN once they get their job stone? NO. That's why it's called a base class. Did ACN use Carbuncles? Yes, they did.

What you're saying is every SCH somehow magically skipped the first 30 levels and never got to use one and isn't an ACN but okay. Yes, gods, I understand SMN got to use them a bit longer, but Carby's are first and foremost an ACN SUMMON. ACN isn't just magically summonless until you unlock SMN, Carby's are an ACN thing. Isn't every SMN and every SCH an ACN?