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    Diminishing Returns in Gathering? A Miner Conundrum

    Are there diminishing returns or some kind of soft cap on the Gathering stat?

    I've been slowly gearing up my miner through Red Scrips. It's a bit of a slog, yes, but it'll get me to a good place, where I'll be able to supply myself anything I need for ARM and BSM (until I need cloth or leather...I digress). I've also been making good amounts of Gil farming Adamantite Ore, but have had that 5% miss chance hit me more frequently than I'd like.

    I've been saving red tokens for a couple weeks now, and yesterday was finally able to buy the 180 chest (which was a huge jump over the 130 blue scrip chest I was using to get by). Port back to Helix, wait for the next spawn of Adamantite, aaaaand...I'm still at only 95%. +30 Gathering over my old chest, and I'm still at 95%. It's a little frustrating, to say the least, when I was able to get 100% gathering unbuffed on at-level nodes while I was leveling up.

    Is there a cap specific to unspoiled nodes that prevents a native gathering rate higher than 95% (I'm pretty sure there's something like that for Perception)? Is my only way to get 100% collection rate to spend 50GP every time?
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    The cap is 95% for anything your level, and 1-star and higher still count as level 60, they just require more gathering to reach the cap.

    1 level below you caps at 96%, and so on, leaving things 5 or more levels below you capping at 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    The cap is 95% for anything your level, and 1-star and higher still count as level 60, they just require more gathering to reach the cap.

    1 level below you caps at 96%, and so on, leaving things 5 or more levels below you capping at 100%.
    Well I feel like a derpus now. Could have sworn I got to 100% at-level in ARR, but I guess I was mistaken.

    I really should start doing mining favors and legendary/folklore nodes to take advantage of all this gear I'm getting.
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    By the way red script stuff is not mandatory

    Ilevel 150
    White stuff with one or 2 meld is enough

    ...

    And I second that
    Back in ARR every star gathering were 95% cap

    Only now with HW this cap has been remove
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    Last edited by Nekotee; 05-26-2016 at 12:16 AM.

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    I have the full red scrip set, including the main hand and the HQ crafted off hand and I'm still at a 95%. Luckily, I was able to meld enough GP that with the cheap Antelope Soup, gives me 660 GP so that I no longer ever miss.
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    I'd have to agree with what NorthernLad suggested. Get enough GP that with a cheap food you have at least 650 GP. That 5% gathering chance skill at 50 GP is a sanity-saver!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    By the way red script stuff is not mandatory
    At this point if you aren't sitting pretty with some red script stuff I would be in a tizzy to get some. It will be almost assuredly needed to gather the new stuff in 3.3 I would be SO SURPRISED if it isn't.

    Best to be overdone than half done and looking for an expensive food to round out your stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panderin View Post
    At this point if you aren't sitting pretty with some red script stuff I would be in a tizzy to get some. It will be almost assuredly needed to gather the new stuff in 3.3 I would be SO SURPRISED if it isn't.

    Best to be overdone than half done and looking for an expensive food to round out your stats.
    Unless they make the new universal DoL gear available with red scrips, in which case gearing up now would be folly. There's new main hands coming too, I imagine they'll be what requires the higher level token gathered items. I can't imagine the new universal gear being better than the current individual job gear. More likely it will be slightly lower but could be meld-able.
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    95%? Oh boo hoo. On some legendary nodes I get 88%. That's where running all BIS comes in. 703 GPs with cheap vendor food. SVII, KY II, +10% to HQ.

    And they didn't remove the cap on the ARR nodes. They removed the cap on us. Stouter has it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    95%? Oh boo hoo.
    I get the rest of what you're saying, but is this part really necessary?
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