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  1. #61
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    Jaeifer's Avatar
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    Kanri Kaenan
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by EudoxiaB View Post
    if a healer has to pop Bene and get to 10% mp every pull because they're dpsing, you have crappy bad dps. a healer shouldn't have time to do more than pop aero 3. if they do, the dps aren't pulling their weight
    How about you get off your high horse and stop telling other people how to play their game? People can pull as much as they want, healers can DPS or heal as much as they want and if other players in the group have a problem it's THEIR issue to address and come to a common agreement, not YOURS.
    I apologize for my harsh tone but entitled feeling people like you make me sick.
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  2. #62
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    mp-please's Avatar
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    Danielle Leclair
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    WHM here
    Benediction is NOT meant to be used on trash pulls.
    You're doing it awfully wrong. Benediction is perfect to use mid holy spam.

    Also I do hate you tanks. Why? Blame 2.4-2.5 warriors and the tank deeps meme while doing large pulls. Nothing was worse than have a sad excuse of tank go full str, not use a single cooldown and try to pull big like a good tank.
    What was the most annoying is that people jumped on this bandwagon because youtubers did it and the hype was all over about tank dps, but when they read the guide of going full str they completely missed the part where they're tanks and defensive cooldowns must be always used.

    The dps meme was so dank i've even had to babysit a goddamned PLD on full str with sword oath on during a large pull on wanderer's palace HM during a expert run (you know the typical double pull after the 1st boss? yea that one), it was just ridiculous.
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    Last edited by mp-please; 05-24-2016 at 08:43 PM.

  3. #63
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    ijuakos_xqwzts's Avatar
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    Erin Grayfox
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Dungeons aren't too bad. If they pull too much and the group wipes, they typically tone it down a little.

    Alexander raids, on the other hand - I downright loathe tanks in these. Why? I'll call it 'tank ego': you always got this one tank that HAS to take all of the damage. In their minds, the other tank is a lawn ornament. If both of the healers are geared to do it and everyone avoids unnecessary damage, then that is fine and dandy. Duty Finder groups (at least the ones I get) don't do that, though. Even if it's apparent that people's gear isn't sufficient for a one-tank-takes-all setup, they'll try again. I've even seen, on occasion, one of these tanks chastising the other tank for following fight mechanics and taunting off the huge tank buster hit.
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  4. #64
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    Ekimmak's Avatar
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    I have the exact opposite problem: where the offtank decides that I should try to solotank it without letting me know about it.

    Just because I could survive it doesn't mean that I want to put that to the test. I'd much rather follow the intended mechanics.
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  5. #65
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    I have the exact opposite problem: where the offtank decides that I should try to solotank it without letting me know about it.

    Just because I could survive it doesn't mean that I want to put that to the test. I'd much rather follow the intended mechanics.
    My biggest beef with offtanks is when I say I'm gonna solo tank the entire thing, then they decide to soak/provoke, etc. I already had my mitigation up. Your wasting my mitigation. YOU'RE WASTING MY MITIGATION! If someone decides to provoke/soak/whatever after I already declared I'm gonna solo it, then they can solo it.
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  6. #66
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    Character
    Eonkhui Malaguld
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    If my healer hates me I know I'm playing my Job right.

    #JustDarkKnightThings
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  7. #67
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    FabricioRF's Avatar
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    Character
    Theodric Bloodfury
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I hate everyone.

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  8. #68
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    I have the exact opposite problem: where the offtank decides that I should try to solotank it without letting me know about it.

    Just because I could survive it doesn't mean that I want to put that to the test. I'd much rather follow the intended mechanics.
    Had this the other day with Vortexer.Got to 3 stacks and i knew the healers were struggling.Switched to Sword Oath.Dark refused to provoke off me and i died.Was useing migitations also.There response was 'sorry i thought you knew what you were doing'
    Told them they should be swapping on 3 stacks which resulted in them completly flaming me and telling me that i should be taking way more stacks than that.
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  9. #69
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    Ekimmak's Avatar
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    My biggest beef with offtanks is when I say I'm gonna solo tank the entire thing, then they decide to soak/provoke, etc. I already had my mitigation up. Your wasting my mitigation. YOU'RE WASTING MY MITIGATION! If someone decides to provoke/soak/whatever after I already declared I'm gonna solo it, then they can solo it.
    If you say that you'll solo it, then fine. I've got no issue with that. I can focus on using my cooldowns to pump out more damage.

    But if the main tank says nothing, then I'm going to assume that tankswaps are needed. I'm not going to risk the boss deciding that, after a Tank appetizers, those Healers look especially delicious.
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  10. #70
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    Ampheni's Avatar
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    Ampheni Loha
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Agree with this, you dont need bene for bosses in dungeons lol. Big pulls is where it's at.
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