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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
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    Not their lore, the game's lore. There's a pretty big difference there, as the latter is an established concrete base that people can use to make their character fit seamlessly into the culture of whatever race they chose. People who tend to stick to the lore often have more promising results than those who don't.

    Finding RP isn't difficult, all it takes is throwing yourself out there. It's a do or don't. There will be people who are willing to approach but not always.

    I don't roleplay with people who named themselves after popular characters as I'd rather stick to XIV's lore for the sake of immersion and the RP itself making sense. For instance, a Doman using a Japanese name is good because Doman culture is based off of Edo-period Japan. It's apparent they put thought into their character's background. A Keeper using a Doman name and RPing with that isn't what I'd go after. I won't badmouth them or say anything negative to them, but I won't roleplay with that person either.

    I expect you to get a little upset over what I said considering the other posts you made in this thread and that's completely fine, I'm just stating what a lot of people look at since names do give a lasting impression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatoi View Post
    I expect you to get a little upset over what I said considering the other posts you made in this thread and that's completely fine, I'm just stating what a lot of people look at since names do give a lasting impression.
    Sorry if it felt like I'm getting little upset with you, after dealing with that one guy, the way you are saying it isn't as bad cause you are explaining it well and nicely unlike him saying I'm a troll and I have no respect for RP and so on. And sorry if I meant *their* lore, I meant to say the lore in general. RP has different stances in how the a person precedes it, that's the whole point of roleplay, Its not just one way, kinda like a game of D&D editions, Not everyone likes the same version.
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    ( Like a twit I took your quote out on accident, OP. Oops. )

    Awesome~

    Anyway, they won't like the same version but not caring for established lore won't get them anywhere. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. DnD is different in that it's limited to your friends and is open for being altered in the way you see fit because of this. Whereas using the MMO you're amongst strangers and what's established in the game is the base. DnD is pretty malleable, I play it on occasion and fun times were had!

    For instance, the reason why I'd rather roleplay with someone who obeys lore in-game is because they also know how to work inside the confinement of FFXIV's world and do it well. Things are also easier to explain and can be woven into other scenarios with ease. Hence why I have zero interest to RP with someone who disregard's XIV's lore.


    Now when it comes to approaching people, there's a good train of thought I adopted: Standing around and waiting for someone to approach over fear of "what if they don't like me" won't get me anywhere. It's the words "what if" that does it, but turning that "what if" into a certain "yes" or "no" is more preferable as now there is a solid answer upon approach. That's how I look at it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    Sorry if it felt like I'm getting little upset with you, after dealing with that one guy, the way you are saying it isn't as bad cause you are explaining it well and nicely unlike him saying I'm a troll and I have no respect for RP and so on. And sorry if I meant *their* lore, I meant to say the lore in general. RP has different stances in how the a person precedes it, that's the whole point of roleplay, Its not just one way, kinda like a game of D&D editions, Not everyone likes the same version.
    There you are making assumptions of me again. Perhaps if you stopped making assumptions of my statements, I wouldn't feel the need to express my opinions so "passive aggressively" as you put it.

    I never said you, yourself were a definite troll. I said it was hard to believe this is not a troll post. I probably should have added the post bit but I thought my message would be clear regardless; apparently it was not. I also stated that it was hard to take you seriously with the name you chose. Please stop looking for reasons to make me the villain here when I'm just stating my own thoughts on the subject. This is general discussion after all and we are allowed to express our thoughts, opinions, ideas, ect so long as they are worded coherently. We are allowed to debate certain topics and dislike them with what information the original post holds, unless further information is provided during the course of the discussion that would prove to better our opinions. But so far my opinion in this discussion remains the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    I feel like you guys are all missing the point here.. Pinkie wasn't saying that this was THEIR story, based on past attempts to rp. Pinkie was just sharing a funny comic.
    The point in question was never stated. The context of the original post left it open to us to believe that s/he was having trouble finding RP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    The point in question was never stated. The context of the original post left it open to us to believe that s/he was having trouble finding RP.
    In the exact same post that you griped at Pinkie for making assumptions, you admit that you read the comic, and ASSUMED s/he was having trouble finding RP.

    By sharing a comic that someone else made,
    and saying that this is RP in a nutshell.

    That doesnt mean that this is their experience. you ASSUMED that this is what the OP meant. Pinkie has never stated that. Pinkie has actually stated the opposite of that.

    So stop making assumptions, stop assuming things that have no merit, and using these assumptions to attack Pinkie.

    Just read the comic, laugh (or dont) and move the heck on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    In the exact same post that you griped at Pinkie for making assumptions, you admit that you read the comic, and ASSUMED s/he was having trouble finding RP.
    Ok? I wasn't the only one who assumed this and you're basically validating the assumption here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    By sharing a comic that someone else made,
    and saying that this is RP in a nutshell.
    You're repeating yourself.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    That doesnt mean that this is their experience. you ASSUMED that this is what the OP meant. Pinkie has never stated that. Pinkie has actually stated the opposite of that.
    This wasn't stated until later in a separate post instead of being placed in the main post which as I have stated makes people think the topic relates to her/him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    So stop making assumptions, stop assuming things that have no merit, and using these assumptions to attack Pinkie.
    Just as s/he assumed I was being aggressive with my comments, so to do you think I'm attacking them. You clearly failed to read that my comment about this being the general discussion and that topics placed in this sub forum are up for any form of discussion, debate, or comment.


    I'm having an incredibly difficult time wondering why you posted in the format you did as though each subject of your statement is a different topic when in fact it's all the same. You tell me to stop making assumptions when you yourself are guilty of such a thing. Making assumptions in a thread, in a way, promotes more discussion and opinions to be expressed. This is what the forum is for. To express ones self and create conversation; whether between the Devs and the Players or the Players just themselves. I see nothing wrong with the fact I am expressing my opinions with merit to support them.

    In any case, I'm not going to waste my entire days positing limitations on this topic so I'm withdrawing from it seeing as my points are taken in the wrong way and causing both you and her/him to think I'm being aggressive which is laughable at best. There will always be someone who disagrees with others and you cannot continue to call it an aggressive attack without you yourself becoming an aggressive attacker. Take those words with whatever you wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    In the exact same post that you griped at Pinkie for making assumptions, you admit that you read the comic, and ASSUMED s/he was having trouble finding RP.

    By sharing a comic that someone else made,
    and saying that this is RP in a nutshell.

    That doesnt mean that this is their experience. you ASSUMED that this is what the OP meant. Pinkie has never stated that. Pinkie has actually stated the opposite of that.

    So stop making assumptions, stop assuming things that have no merit, and using these assumptions to attack Pinkie.

    Just read the comic, laugh (or dont) and move the heck on.
    Ignore Grimmel, I have him on blacklist now so I don't have to see anything he types anymore. Instead of saying sorry and moving on he wants to stand his ground. I'm going to move on.
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    Last edited by Pinkie_Pie; 05-21-2016 at 03:03 AM.
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