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  1. #21
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    There is some positive in house flipping though, TBH, those are houses that are at least accessible in some way to people that did not make it on the initial server-opening rush. Without people selling houses, those houses would just be locked away.
    If people weren't flipping houses then they would have been available for purchase. Someone who would actually USE it would have been able to buy it. There IS no positive lol.
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    Belle Forte
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    I very much agree with this post.
    It isn't so much of a "race" to see who can get plots first, it's a matter of staying up or getting up at odd hours just to buy land before the masses wake up. If they couldn't implement a system to allow first time buyers a few hours/days to grab housing, I'd like to maybe see the wards stagger release. Possibly releasing on different days or hours just so people can't camp outside plots. Raw idea though.

    The multiple house dilemma is just aggravating between all the alts and FCs with more than one house. Don't mean to veer off topic, but FCs really should have a minimum member requirement. Don't allow people to make an FC with alts or paid randoms and then kick everyone so they can be the sole FC person reaping the benefits. Anywhoo, personal housing really should have been separated from FC (as was promised), and wards/plots should be based on server population, not just general game. I can't imagine how bad housing is on Blamung.

    I actually want to try out the new housing, but I'm scared if I relinquish my house, I won't be able to get a place and I'll be houseless.
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  3. #23
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    I personally had wish that they had gone with a route similar to how housing is done in EverQuest 2, but since their server hardware/software can't handle that amount of instancing I know that will never happen.

    I would love to have a private residence for my characters (they're all on different servers, sometimes having a basic subscription is awesome... especially when you're an altoholic like me) but because of the market flipping, I know that will never happen. And, honestly, I can't think of a solution that would work to appease most folks.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Titor Jaraba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    If people weren't flipping houses then they would have been available for purchase. Someone who would actually USE it would have been able to buy it. There IS no positive lol.
    They would have been bought by people who would have only been available to get on at server opening. People at work/school/sleep/etc during that time would just be out of luck then.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    They would have been bought by people who would have only been available to get on at server opening. People at work/school/sleep/etc during that time would just be out of luck then.
    Ok? Thats fine. I don't have a house and thats preferable to people selling them at 3x the cost just to relinquish the plot.

    Its first come first serve. I mean, theres tons of stuff you can't get IRL becuase of work/school/sleep. Saying scalping, cuz thats what this is, is beneficial is completely nuts.
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    Alexes D'kal
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    The game should direct the money to the player funds and only give it to the npc to sink money if it is an empty plot that way the owners wouldn't have the excuse to say I am trying to recover my money and trying o make a profit. The game should take inconsideration the furniture's and other items inthe house to give back to the owner the Gil used to buy the house and their Gil invested.
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    If they don't want alts buying houses they need to make it so alts can access the main accounts house
    There still be a lot of people that would think that their alts need their own house, which I'm sure could easily out number the amount of plots they adding.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Ok? Thats fine. I don't have a house and thats preferable to people selling them at 3x the cost just to relinquish the plot.

    Its first come first serve. I mean, theres tons of stuff you can't get IRL becuase of work/school/sleep. Saying scalping, cuz thats what this is, is beneficial is completely nuts.
    I would rather have at least some way to get something rather than absolutely no way to get something. Something far to reach is better than something completely out of reach
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    I would rather have at least some way to get something rather than absolutely no way to get something. Something far to reach is better than something completely out of reach
    Selling houses from launch isn't flipping. Flipping is buying with the intent to quickly sell it for profit. There is absolutely no benefit to flipping other than to the person doing it.
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    Lufir Lumini
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    SE just really needs to have an official notice in-game that says reselling houses is illegal. The rules are unclear and some people get away with flipping or selling, while others do not. Personally, I have had a warning placed on my account literally 10 minutes after posting on Party Finder, while others have been on PF for a couple hours a day or more and numerous times a week.

    I could be wrong here but I am positive that reselling housing plots for large profits will be a much bigger issue than honest alts wanting to buy another plot for their own use. So for starters, there needs to be some type of notification implemented when purchasing a plot that indicates the illegality of flipping.
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