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    OK, if this is going to drag on I'm going to get serious about this. I memorably discussed how sexual relations between Au Ra are possible despite the difference in their stature, so no worries.

    From a physiological standpoint, Au Ra females have developed breasts likely for the main reason human females are speculated to have developed breasts: to garner male attention even when they aren't currently capable of producing offspring. Permanently developed breasts are a unique trait among humans; no other mammal has this trait. The only other known hypothesis for why this is the case is that it helps nursing infants attach to the nipple. (Despite what some people may believe, larger breasts do not indicate a female is capable of producing or storing more milk. That has nothing to do with the amount of mammary glands females have, which is largely the same regardless of breast size; the visibly developed breast of a human female is, largely, fat and connective tissue.) Of course, whether evolution is a thing on Hydaelyn remains to be seen, so all of this scientific conjecture could be invalid. I think I remember from somewhere that Hydaelyn (the current planet) is about 10,000 years old - that's not enough time for evolution to produce major changes in organisms.

    Nothing about Auri origins themselves have been divulged, beyond their creation myth alludes to a Dawn Father and Dusk Mother that the Raen and Xaela believe themselves to be respectively descended from. Furthermore, despite the fact that they have scales and horns cranial projections, Au Ra are not related to dragons, demons, or reptiles in any way (that we know of). They are implicitly mammals like the rest of the playable races, so they likely reproduce and take care of (nurse) their young in the same manner.

    From a design standpoint, it's primarily to help people identify with the characters. People empathize easily with humanoid characters (hence why robots with humanoid shapes are easily sympathized with), and visibly developed breasts are part of the human female form.

    P.S. Sorry for trying to be a "moment killer," so to speak, but it's kind of an inane question. Plus I like providing infodumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Of course, whether evolution is a thing on Hydaelyn remains to be seen, so all of this scientific conjecture could be invalid. I think I remember from somewhere that Hydaelyn (the current planet) is about 10,000 years old - that's not enough time for evolution to produce major changes in organisms
    I think is the age of man what began 10 thousand years ago. But not the birth of the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    I think is the age of man what began 10 thousand years ago. But not the birth of the planet.
    Beside the point, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    I think is the age of man what began 10 thousand years ago. But not the birth of the planet.
    Hydaelyn was created approximately 20,000 years ago allegedly. However, there's evidences of fossils which some scholars debate must've taken a thousand thousand (aka a million) years to form. So, yeah, I personally imagine Hydaelyn as being millions of years old like any good planet should be, but the smallfolk aren't exactly keen on the science.
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    Why do Au Ra have head hair? What is the purpose of the tail on a Mi'qote? These have no function and exist for purely aesthetic reasons. Same goes for the enlarged busts of the female characters in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    From a physiological standpoint, Au Ra females have developed breasts likely for the main reason human females are speculated to have developed breasts: to garner male attention even when they aren't currently capable of producing offspring. Permanently developed breasts are a unique trait among humans; no other mammal has this trait.
    Where do people come up with this stuff? Not all men have an interest in female breasts. And I'm pretty sure most every species of mammal is capable of developing enlarged mammary glands. Apes, bovines, cats, dogs, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    Not all men have an interest in female breasts. And I'm pretty sure most every species of mammal is capable of developing enlarged mammary glands. Apes, bovines, cats, dogs, etc.
    Not all, but developed breasts are an indicator of female fertility, biologically speaking. (They develop during puberty, after all.) Thus, a female with visibly developed breasts is at least capable of producing offspring, even if they can't do so at this exact moment, and males will pay attention to her as a potential candidate for mating. (Yes, I am being cold and scientific about this. When such a question is asked, it requires that kind of attitude to be taken seriously.)

    Another hypothesis for why human females have permanently developed breasts is Prison School's "boobs are just fake asses" stance. In honesty, though, there's no clear scientific reason to explain it.

    While all mammals are capable of producing milk to nurse their offspring, humans are the only species that have permanently enlarged breasts. The breasts of other mammals do enlarge during pregnancy and while nursing, but otherwise they are not much different from a male in that regard. A human female, on the other hand, has enlarged breasts her entire adult life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Hydaelyn was created approximately 20,000 years ago allegedly. However, there's evidences of fossils which some scholars debate must've taken a thousand thousand (aka a million) years to form. So, yeah, I personally imagine Hydaelyn as being millions of years old like any good planet should be, but the smallfolk aren't exactly keen on the science.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Beside the point, isn't it?
    I dont wanna ahead so much of the original thread so.
    If you both remembed the game of man after the 1st umbral era, once its said that the gold left, right?
    Before that is waa called the age of gods, but that doesnt mean that man did not existed already, did they lived with the gods?

    But yea, despite that I agreed. Female auras are girls, and well..there is really more to say? xd
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    Quote Originally Posted by DE-Roxas View Post
    As I said, dont quite remember & could be wrong. Just heared that somewhere, thought worth mentioning tho
    But i think we will learn alot more about their origins and the other clans (hinted at the life letter Q&A) in Doma as soon as we get there, someday, maybe
    i cant rem when it was stated but it one of the 2.0 -2.5 cut scenes the domans said that doma was destroyed and that was why they came here so i don't know if we will even be going to doma. i beleive they said it was because they tried to rebel against the garleans and they destroyed it in order to make an example of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Not all, but developed breasts are an indicator of female fertility, biologically speaking. (They develop during puberty, after all.) Thus, a female with visibly developed breasts is at least capable of producing offspring, even if they can't do so at this exact moment, and males will pay attention to her as a potential candidate for mating. (Yes, I am being cold and scientific about this. When such a question is asked, it requires that kind of attitude to be taken seriously.)
    While it is true that many animals develop unique shapes specifically for the purpose of attracting mates (though, oddly, in most cases it's the male that has them, not the female), there's another theory I read about regarding the origins of the human shape that I found interesting, as well. The theory was that early humans developed the ability to evade predators by moving into deep water where the predators were reluctant to follow. With the enlarged, fatty breasts high on the chest, nursing mothers could continue to nurse even while hiding in this way. The theory was also an explanation as to why humans have so little body hair; like many mammals that spend a great deal of time in the water, extra body hair was superfluous.

    Of course, none of this necessarily applies to Eorzean races. Evolution may or may not even be a thing in FFXIV, and the shapes of the various races may well boil down to "Haeydalyn created them that way".
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    This is a weird question. They have hair, they have non-scaly skin... they're basically just regular folk with horns and a few other minor differences. They're certainly mammals, from a biological perspective. Their relation to dragons seems significantly more distant than their relation to Hyume(ans). If they have regular skin and regular hair, it would be weirder if they DIDN'T have breasts.

    One might more reasonably ask, "why don't Lalafell have breasts?" They're mammalian, too, and probably nurse their young... yet the females seem to lack the facilities necessary to do so. Where are their milk glands, if there's no room for them on their chests?
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