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    Quote Originally Posted by Nialle View Post
    May as well ask why Miqote don't have six, given that they're cat-based. =P
    Actually that would be because that wouldn't make any sense. The closer a mammal gets to being bipedal, the more their breasts will have to be like a human's in order to more efficiently feed infants. Our ancestors used to have loads of nipples too but now we don't and the only real difference is being bipedal. Put two and two together, get four, having human-like breasts is a bipedal thing rather than a human thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I know, that ofc from a design perspective the answer to this questition is "Because its more appealing!" but when I was actually on my way to my biology lectures at uni I kinda realized how stupid it is for a lizard-type race to have breasts (since, as we all know, reptiles dont breatfeed their offsprings). So now, assuming that Au Ra reproduce like reptiles - why do they have boobs?
    Is there a lore reason that anyone actually thought off or did they just added it because its (probably) more appealing?
    IIRC, the Allagan were experimenting with Voidsent gene-splicing.
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  3. #73
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    The maximum boob size should be increased by 30%. This would be a decent size, while still avoiding DOA volleyball epic boobness.
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  4. #74
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    There\\'s been a.
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    Apparently the mobile site doesn't let you delete or edit posts so I apologize for the triple post.

    There\\'s been a lot of comparison to other races since this began. Auri have been inspired in appearance from demon\\'s, and the closest in-game are Voidsent, but that may have also inspired origins. While not being directly descendants of Voidsent they could be similar to Miqo\\'te. I mean, out of all the playable races,

    Miqo\\'te and Auri are the most beastlike and while not explicitly stated, like the fishing log quoted in a previous post, there\\'s a 3.0 dungeon where genetic splicing experiments happened. The logs there indicate that Allagans created the Ixali and hint that they also created the Miqo\\'te, which lines up with Miqo\\'te lore of them having no land origin or remembering where they came from. It\\'s likely that Auri are also products of Allagan science and their tale of their origin holds pieces of truth of that old empire playing god.
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    Slightly on topic, its true that Succubi have been summoned before, evidenced by books found in the Hubal library dating back to the Magi War but Haukke manor shows they can also appear through transforming female Elezen. Considering Heavrnsward unleashed interesting lore on the connections of dragons and Elezen I\\\\'m curious what Haukke Manor implies on Elezen, Dragons and Voidsent. Or what would happen if Succubi were to breed with the playable Spoken races.

    Merely because it hasn\\\\'t been shown hardly means it hasn\\\\'t occured - much like the huge absence of halfbreeds we don\\\\'t see but were told exist, if only rarely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemiko View Post
    Slightly on topic, its true that Succubi have been summoned before, evidenced by books found in the Hubal library dating back to the Magi War but Haukke manor shows they can also appear through transforming female Elezen. Considering Heavrnsward unleashed interesting lore on the connections of dragons and Elezen I\\\\'m curious what Haukke Manor implies on Elezen, Dragons and Voidsent. Or what would happen if Succubi were to breed with the playable Spoken races.

    Merely because it hasn\\\\'t been shown hardly means it hasn\\\\'t occured - much like the huge absence of halfbreeds we don\\\\'t see but were told exist, if only rarely.
    Succubi manifest when a Voidsent spirit inhabits a female corpse. Since there are no details on what actually occurs when a female Elezen is "transformed", I think that it's safe to assume that killing the female Elezen is part of the process (in order to create a corpse to inhabit). I think that's very likely what happened to Lady Amandine in Haukke Manor; in her insane quest for eternal youth and beauty, she allowed herself to be killed and transformed, believing that she would still be "herself" after the process. And, perhaps to some degree she was; perhaps the body's original personality continues on in the Succubus, somewhat in the style of vampires on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I think it's just as likely, though, that the Voidsent she dealt with simply lied to her, and there's absolutely nothing of Lady Amandine left in her floating corpse.

    As for Succubi breeding with other races... Well, given what they are, transformed and animated corpses, I guess it would depend on whether the voidsent spirit bothered to boot up the ol' reproductive system. If it were to happen, though, I doubt it would result in anything like an Au Ra - and if half-bred Voidsent really WERE in the Auri ancestry, I'd guess their creation myths would be a whole lot different than they actually are.

    Also, be careful about assuming any connections between Dragons and Elezen. The only connections there are very recent (only a thousand years or so years old), and strictly limited to the inhabitants of Ishgard (with the possible exception here and there of an Elezen who migrated from Ishgard elsewhere). I'd guess that most, if not all, Gridanian Elezen don't have a scrap of dragon power in them, and would be unaffected by the Dragon's Blood potions used by the heretics to transform.
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  8. #78
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    If not consumed by whatever Voidsent, perhaps a sort of fusion as Lady Amandine is later summoned and consumed by Halicarnassus when we face her in Haukke Manor Hard. After we, supposedly, had slain Amandine prior.
    As far as assumptions on Elezen, I think it'd have to be better explained in lore how far the Ishgardian bloodline spreads. It's heavily implied that all Elezen in Ishgard, due to time and extended lineage, have the capability to become dragons. In the Shroud, Elezen still have nobility. Lady Amandine was of house Dartancours after all and considering Gridania is land stolen from Ixali it isn't a stretch to believe that the Elezen native to the now Gridania came from elsewhere. If Ishgard is older, it'd be the nearest predominantly Elezen locale.
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    The origin we were given from the Au Ra mouths were pretty absurd, even by their standards and could merely be the belief of that one clan as MSQ makes a point to show that different clans have different beliefs. It's because of their similar form to Miqo'te and the origin give lining up more to be about primals (which the allagans have involvement with evidenced by Ultima and Omega) that it seems more likely their existence is owed to the allagans. Which seems to be the theme of ffxiv.
    "Allagans."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    So, you actually raise the questition though: Are they mammals?
    Sorry to stop here but as I understand it, the primary defining feature of a mammal is the mammary glands. Thus if Au Ra have breasts, they are mammals that have evolved reptilian-like phenotypes.
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