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  1. #121
    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Also, i feel taking note of bloodbath in warriors case is very important, if you throw bloodbath into your deliverance opener that is a huge amount of heals in a short time, while not the best, itll definantly take care of you for a little while, with being healed for around 1.3k life per fell cleave, or around 2k if it crits, on top of the 400 here and 500 there per GCD of your other hits. its an extremely useful cooldown to pop in your berserked state

    whilst in the case of the other tanks, cross classing bloodbath is pretty much useless as none of them are able to output the same amount of high damage in such a short time
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  2. #122
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Can he solo Titan EX after the Tank blanket nerf though? Wasn't his Solo vid before the nerf?
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  3. #123
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    i would just like to say, that while xeno obviously didnt just faceplant his keyboard to solo that titan ex, the only reason he won was because of pure luck, there were MANY times where if his heals hadnt crit, he would have been dead.no doubt he practiced and tryed that over and over to get the clear he did get, but it wasnt from pure skill
    Most of the times where he did rely on luck were because that's how the encounter is - you can't reasonably account for everything with WAR's limited healing compared to an actual healer. During the adds he could've taken better advantage of Bloodbath, but he only realized that later in the encounter when it saved him. His Titan EX video is impressive because it's the definition of how a good WAR works, you map out all your GCDs for an encounter and execute. T13 7man is a better example since it's not a solo thing, but I don't think Titan EX should be ignored.

    Can he solo Titan EX after the Tank blanket nerf though? Wasn't his Solo vid before the nerf?
    The gear has already outweighed the damage difference, and he'd have significantly more cushion health to work with (especially with echo). It was from before the nerf, but that doesn't really mean anything.
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  4. #124
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    The gear has already outweighed the damage difference, and he'd have significantly more cushion health to work with (especially with echo). It was from before the nerf, but that doesn't really mean anything.
    Was just wondering. Regardless it's still an impressive feat for an Extreme fight.
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  5. #125
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    Praesul's Avatar
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    Praesul Presul
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I like how Xeno has cleared A8S and yet he's still a "below average" tank.

    Because below average tanks clear content that 99% of this game's population will never even see, lol.
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  6. #126
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    HatsoonMike's Avatar
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    Kyoumo Iitenki
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    Ravana
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    snip
    Yes of course both tanks have to deal with mechanics and each job is better suited to different ones, but generally DRK MT and WAR OT is the most efficient balance of DPS and mitigation.
    I've watched him stream, he does lots of dumb things to maximise his own dps at the expense of his group. I don't care about his meme clears of irrelevant content, I'm talking about progression.


    Quote Originally Posted by Praesul View Post
    I like how Xeno has cleared A8S and yet he's still a "below average" tank.

    Because below average tanks clear content that 99% of this game's population will never even see, lol.
    I'm not talking about general population of course, I'm talking about progression raiders.
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  7. #127
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HatsoonMike View Post
    I've watched him stream, he does lots of dumb things to maximise his own dps at the expense of his group.
    Can agree w/ this, so I guess fair enough.
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  8. #128
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Again, the issue is not about what Xeno thinks of tanks. It's about a balance problem between them. Of course, it's not as important as it was before 3.2 but it's still there.
    It's easy to say what WAR or DRK offers upon PLD, the opposite is not that clear...or that meaningful.

    Additionnal mitigation as MT is worthless since any tank has enough mitigation. So, increasing mitigation capabilities as OT could be an interesting way.
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  9. #129
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    Ragnorak's Avatar
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    The Tank
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Even stacked up against other raiders "below average"? I'm not seeing it fam
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  10. #130
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnorak View Post
    Even stacked up against other raiders "below average"? I'm not seeing it fam
    I don't really understand this sentence fully..fam? But um, I don't know about below average but I play with people who tank better then him..way better. Doesn't mean he is awful but people must admit there is always someone else better out there. Not everyone films every thing they do in a game..I think I said this in this thread before lol.
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