Why do people want Blue Mage in this game?

[Kazrah]

And when you plop Item recast timers and put Phoenix Downs as out of combat items yeah you already failed there.

Nope, that's called "balancing". Items have those cooldowns so they don't become a mandatory staple for every single fight. No point having healers in a raid group if you have items serving that role instead. As for Phoenix Downs, how obnoxiously overpowered would it be just to have that free revive item on the fly without being a healer or a summoner in the middle of a fight? Even with the revive penalty, that'd still be gamebreaking.

Yeah but if you look here
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Knight
all the Dark Knights all sound the same, sacrificing HP and what not so new universe or not, Dark Knight sounds pretty consistent here, Soul Eater especially sounds like it does the same thing involves sacrificing HP but you know XIV is the special snowflake game of the series. XIV is an MMO sure, but it's also a mainline title. I don't think Dark Knights sacrificing HP would be fun for the healers though.

In all honesty, I really couldn't care less how far off jobs in the game are from their past incarnations. I just want jobs in this game that work, and fortunately most of them kinda do. Also, let me repost this since it seems relevant to your response.

As for DRK using health for a resource, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you hate people who want to play healers? Seriously, because that's what you're saying when you claim that this is what you want. It makes healers suffer and/or panic because your health gets spikier than the tank's health, and you can't really say "it has self-healing to offset it" because in order to make that whole mechanic balanced in XIV, that means an average or low-geared DRK would have to beat the best geared WARs in self-healing. Sure, DRK is still clearly a work-in-progress, but griping and moaning about old traditions of past games does absolutely nothing to make it work in this game.

[Ilitsa]

while I agree, Blue Mage might not work for this game too well, I disagree with the "only ex-wow players" comment, as there are a LOT of FF veterans asking for it as well. It's just like the people asking for Red Mage, Geomancer, Beast Tamer, etc. Things worked in a previous FF, and people want the things they liked before. In a game that is 80% fan-service, it's pretty hard to NOT want the things you've been a fan of. As for how the skills could be obtained, there's a few ways they could do it and have it make sense, from a "go kill X number of Y monster!", to instanced specialized battles, I wouldn't rule too much out in that regard.

[MagiusNecros]

At the end of my bitching I can always go back to FF Explorers or the Bravely series or past FF games. Where jobs work and all their abilities do too. So it's all good. Part of the fun is seeing what they do to Samurai and Red Mage next expansion.

[Yuni_Queen]

Also, by that standard, MNK was also a friggin tank. Highest HP pool by far. Sounds familiar? It's called WAR.

And rags as armor. Don't forget about rags.
Nothing more spectacular than watching dps in rags to tank shit.

In your opinion DRK is not a tank? maybe abbreviation is not too clear. Dark Knight < DRK. And DRK is a second side of a Paladin's coin.
I don't imagine Knight in FF series that wears something less than plate armor by default.

Beeing a tank in this game, means you take damage on yourself.
There is no yet implemented evade-type mitigation system in FFXIV. Until they won't give us that, forget about the idea itself.

[Laerune]

I realy love the Blue Mage and I want it in FFXIV, but at the same time, Blue Mage is a Blue Mage, because of its iconic mechanism. If FFXIV removes them or downplays it. I have to ask myself, is this still the Blue Mage that we know and love?

Summoner in FFXIV, is a Warlock from WoW + EGI, if they are not able to stay true to the class, then I rather not see them add Blue Mage into this game.

[Rawrz]

I realy love the Blue Mage and I want it in FFXIV, but at the same time, Blue Mage is a Blue Mage, because of its iconic mechanism. If FFXIV removes them or downplays it. I have to ask myself, is this still the Blue Mage that we know and love?

Summoner in FFXIV, is a Warlock from WoW + EGI, if they are not able to stay true to the class, then I rather not see them add Blue Mage into this game.

What was said: "I don't want new classes, because I fear change, also my memories D:"

Guess what: People love their FFXIV incarnation of summoner.

I also don't remember juggling astral fire and umbral ice on vivi. An ether and osmose is all you needed, but it got changed to fit the style of this game.. and it worked.

[Khalithar]

Guess what: People love their FFXIV incarnation of summoner.

There are also people that don't like it, neither side is wrong. Wanting them to stay at least somewhat true to the original vision of how the Jobs usually worked is perfectly valid feedback. It's not always feasible of course but it's perfectly fair to feel that way.

[Rawrz]

There are also people that don't like it, neither side is wrong. Wanting them to stay at least somewhat true to the original vision of how the Jobs usually worked is perfectly valid feedback. It's not always feasible of course but it's perfectly fair to feel that way.

But just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it won't be someone's dream job. If they hadn't added summoner because of nostalgia people wouldn't have had a chance to experience the class and love it. To say no to blue mage because of nostalgia, is to say no to someone's dream job. ;c

[Khalithar]

But just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it won't be someone's dream job. If they hadn't added summoner because of nostalgia people wouldn't have had a chance to experience the class and love it. To say no to blue mage because of nostalgia, is to say no to someone's dream job. ;c

Again, neither side is right. Her opinion that she'd rather not see it added if it is not at least somewhat true to the original format is perfectly valid.

[Yasuhiro]

But just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it won't be someone's dream job. If they hadn't added summoner because of nostalgia people wouldn't have had a chance to experience the class and love it. To say no to blue mage because of nostalgia, is to say no to someone's dream job. ;c

Bolded Nostalgia because what?
And then you go on to say stuff like "someone's dream job" If they loved Blue Mage in other FF games and want to see it in XIV then that surely means they love it because of what the Blue Mage is all about. Just call the job something else if they're not going to stay true to it.