Biggest disappointment as a Scholar.

[Gameplayzero]

TBF, their DPS is failing at their job of supplying enough DPS to down the boss, whether it's due to unoptimized rotations or a complete lack of gear. It is the DPS' responsibility to ensure their properly geared after all. That's why healer DPS is a thing, to cover up for the shortcomings of said DPS.

I always though it was because one healer was good enough for a good portion of the fight and the only other option for the off healer was to dps to make runs faster and to possibly push phases. Midas doesn't have dps checks like gordias to where even with great dps everyone had to contribute.

There is just no reason for everyone not to try their hardest in this type of content. I know you don't necessarily want to see eye to eye with this, but it is what it is.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

.... did you just really equate Elysium's DPS to being "garbage" because the group needed healer DPS to World First A8S......?

I don't think I have any more words at this moment.

Nope! I said that due to lacking gear, they need their healers to contribute also in order to make the checks when they may or may not need healers to DPS as well if they had the gear. Distinction!

No one really cares if DPS are undergeared after all.

[FoxyAreku]

TBF, their DPS is failing at their job of supplying enough DPS to down the boss, whether it's due to unoptimized rotations or a complete lack of gear. It is the DPS' responsibility to ensure their properly geared after all. That's why healer DPS is a thing, to cover up for the shortcomings of said DPS.

It is straight up impossible to beat some of the DPS checks in savage without healer help at the gear levels they were at when they acquired world first.

You're basically saying a raid group should wait, practice, and/or get better gear if they can't meet a dps check so their healers can be lazy and not play their classes to their full potential. Which is just plain selfish, and anyone with this mindset should not be playing a healer to begin with.

No one really cares if DPS are undergeared after all.

This also bothers me, and shows even more than other posts just how little you know about this game, in a raid setting the DPS' gear is the most important factor and serious groups will always distribute loot in a way that the DPS will be favored. If anything, no one cares that a healer is undergeared, because healer is BY FAR the most gear-independent role. Scholars were doing A3S in 180 gear just so they could meld accuracy afterall.

You know so little about how raiding works yet pretend to know so much. Like, I get it, you don't want to do damage as a healer. It's lazy, but it's fine since you don't raid anyway, so just move on.

Sorry if I'm being rude here, but the sheer amount of baseless assumptions and flat out wrong information you post is just a bit mind-boggling.

[Kikoten]

I like the people who scorn me for not DPSing up to their standard as I heal them through duties. They can slam their face into the keyboard all they want, and keep coming up with more shite to throw at me, but the fact of the matter is they kept me around and I kept them alive .

I haven't been kicked for poor DPS yet, but even if I do get kicked, well, I hope they have a healer friend on deck, or else they just screwed their whole run, assuming it's not a raid where other healers can pick up the slack.

They'd be stuck waiting, and I'd get to join another run almost instantly, because healing is life in the fast lane.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Pffft. Well, that's amusing.

[irumancer]

Discipline priest passive converts damage into healing and they spent all their time DPSing and still do to this day.

AFAIK Not really. As of today the strategy is to blanket the raid with bubbles and use situational heals. There is something planned for disco priests being a hybrid on Legion but as of today its the most brain-dead healing class available since you can top numbers by just spamming bubbles. Its also annoying for other healers because if there is no much damage there isn't work left to the other healing classes.

Now back to FFXIV I was one of these who was attracted to the class only to discover they were akin to support role. Luckily I've leveled 2 classes in parallel (its easy with those sweet queue times). I don't dislike SCH but I want to heal.

I'm still a new player and haven't decided which job should I focus on but as someone coming from WoW SCH is fun but still a bit uncomfortable.

[Tint]

You're basically saying a raid group should wait, practice, and/or get better gear if they can't meet a dps check so their healers can be lazy and not play their classes to their full potential. Which is just plain selfish, and anyone with this mindset should not be playing a healer to begin with.

why is it even possible that a healer can contribute to damage while undergeared in the hardest content of the game?

[MysticDecay]

I pretty much healed midas 4 on my own as a scholar because the white mage, who I had to keep raising, spent most of her time taking a lay down. I've played all healers and scholar is by far my favourite.

[Mattelot]

As a Scholar, I don't care what other people say. I may DPS, I may not. That's my decision to make. If I wanted to DPS all the time, i'll swap out my soul to Summoner. I play Scholar because I like the proactive healing. At first, it was the last healer I thought I would have played because I was prejudice and thought the Fairies looked gay. Now, I love them. I've done some pretty funny things with the job, including going into a low level sync dungeon and letting my Fairy do all the work, just to see if I can.

[AristocraticCorgi]

My first character on FF14 was an ARCANIST/SCH.

With that said, after reading this thread, I can say that the OP did not learn how to become a good SCH. Scholars are the most flexible class of healers, they are good DPS and very good healers. IMHO though the WHM is the most powerful of all healers in terms of raw healing power. Can't beat the WHM at that. However, the WHM does not have the mitigating power that SCH does, nor do they have pets, or excellent DPS skills. When you think about it, the SCH not only has great spells/skills to enhance your changes of success; it also offers you the possibility to significantly weaken the enemies you are fighting; it simply brings the best of two worlds into the mix.