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  1. #211
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    Reiryuu's Avatar
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
    I think FF9 had it, too, with Quina, but s/he was a weird case. I don't know what a Beastmaster does (typical hunter?), and I'm assuming lycanthropy is transformation into a ... were-creature of some sort?

    Actually, come to think, we don't have any jobs that revolve around transformations a la Druid from Diablo 2's expansion (or WoW). I think it'd be cool to play as a job that transforms.
    Strago [Is that how his name was spelled? Relm's father] (FF6) and Gau (FF4) were also BLUs in a sense though not by name (they both learned abilities from monsters)

    Beastmaster summoned monsters from pots in FFXI. They were in other FFs too, V had one IIRC
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    *Shamelessly insert blue mage build*
    Quina based Blue Mage
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  3. #213
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Strago [Is that how his name was spelled? Relm's father] (FF6) and Gau (FF4) were also BLUs in a sense though not by name (they both learned abilities from monsters)

    Beastmaster summoned monsters from pots in FFXI. They were in other FFs too, V had one IIRC
    Strago's Job Class in FFVI was Blue Mage. Full stop.
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  4. #214
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Beastmaster summoned monsters from pots in FFXI. They were in other FFs too, V had one IIRC
    This is part of the reason why I ask is the flavor of BLU could be retained by merging it with Beastmaster, a transformation-centered job or both. Blue Mage and Beastmaster both are relate to Monsters and their skills but their methods are different, more so that the difference between RDM and FCR (which both mix magic with melee swords).

    Actually I think i might make a thread for such a Job later
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  5. #215
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    This is part of the reason why I ask is the flavor of BLU could be retained by merging it with Beastmaster, a transformation-centered job or both. Blue Mage and Beastmaster both are relate to Monsters and their skills but their methods are different, more so that the difference between RDM and FCR (which both mix magic with melee swords).

    Actually I think i might make a thread for such a Job later
    noooooooooo wayyy ,this FF need another pet class , and BST is perfect , maybe they could use boomerang ,rifle ,whip....

    plus who doesnt want to see a lalafell using BST AF? soo cutee

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  6. #216
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    Estellise Valesti
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Strago [Is that how his name was spelled? Relm's father] (FF6) and Gau (FF4) were also BLUs in a sense though not by name (they both learned abilities from monsters)

    Beastmaster summoned monsters from pots in FFXI. They were in other FFs too, V had one IIRC
    Strago is Relm's grandfather not father, and Gau is from FFVI as well. There is no blue magic in FFIV, except for "Jive" in After Stories.

    To clarify the following games/characters have BLUE MAGIC (or some varient).

    FFIV After Story: Calca has "Jive" (which is random).
    FFV: All characers can be a Blue Mage, and may have "Blue Magic" set when using another job as well.
    FFVI: Strago has "Lore". Gau's "Rage" is completely different than Blue Magic, as it replaces "Attack" and you lose control of him. Gau never learns any attack he uses.
    FFVII: Everyone can use the "Enemy Skill" materia.
    FFVIII: Quistis has "Blue Magic" as her Limit Break.
    FFIX: Quina has "Blue Magic".
    FFX: Kimahri has "Ronso Rage" as his Overdrive.
    FFX-2: The Gun Mage dressphere has "Blue Bullet".
    FFXI: Blue Mages have "Blue Magic".

    There's also a few other, none main series games as well.

    I'd also like to point out that the OP dumbed down how Blue Magic is learned. In some games you do learn it by taking a direct hit by the spell/ability, but in other games it's different. In FFVI Strago just has to be in the battle when the abilities is used, in FFVIII you have to use items on Quistis, in FFIX Quina eats enemies, and in FFX Kimahri has to use Lancet.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 05-13-2016 at 12:00 AM.

  7. #217
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    Erim-Nelhah's Avatar
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    Erim Nelhah
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Blue Mage might work - if it was released as a class, not a job, and was the only class released in an expansion, due to branching off into a total of 5 jobs (Tank, Healer, Melee, Magic, Ranged). Even then, it would likely be considered a pale imitation of the classic Blue Mage.

    --Erim Nelhah
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    Dancer is a physical hybrid melee/range class, not a true ranged class. I love it.

  8. #218
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 50
    FFV: Blue magic learned (by everyone in the party) when a Blue mage is struck by an enemy ability.
    FFVI: Blue magic learned by seeing an enemy ability being used (doesn't have to be the target).
    FFVII: Blue magic learned by getting hit by an enemy's skill while having Enemy Skill Materia equipped.
    FFVIII: Blue magic learned by using items dropped or mugged from enemies.
    FFIX: Blue magic learned by eating weakened enemies.
    FFX: Blue magic learned by using lancet on an enemy.
    FFXI: Blue magic learned by defeating enemies after they've used a skill.

    There's some other differences as well, like under which circumstances that blue magic can then be used, but we've already got a variety of ways of learning it. And the fact that there's already such a variety means that not only could the devs choose from among them the pattern that works best here, but they could come up with an entirely new way of learning the skills and it would still fit in with the rest so long as it's an enemy skill and that enemy is involved in some fashion when learning it.

    Personally, I kind of like the IX and X pattern of learning mob skills by using a particular skill on that mob. I think that pattern could work well here. But so could the VI and XI pattern of learning skills you've seen used. The V and VII pattern of needing to be hit by the skill isn't as good of a fit, since hopefully only the tank will be getting hit by a lot of these (or better yet nobody if they're AoE). And the VIII pattern incorporating items into the learning process still just seems a bit strange (though obviously that didn't stop them from using it before, so maybe it could work here too).



    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    Blue Magic is also in VII and works same way as V, everyone can learn it with Enemy Skill Materia.
    Ah, right, missed that one (updated above). I left Bravely Default/Second out of this list since they're not officially part of Final Fantasy (despite being so heavily influenced by it that they might as well be.)
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 05-13-2016 at 06:52 AM.

  9. #219
    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    noooooooooo wayyy ,this FF need another pet class , and BST is perfect , maybe they could use boomerang ,rifle ,whip...
    Another pet class? My headache is coming back.
    Rifle discarded, we have MCH.
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  10. #220
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
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    Blue Magic is also in VII and works same way as V, everyone can learn it with Enemy Skill Materia. Also makes an appearance in Bravely Default/Second as Vampire

    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Strago is Relm's grandfather not father, and Gau is from FFVI as well. There is no blue magic in FFIV, except for "Jive" in After Stories.

    To clarify the following games/characters have BLUE MAGIC (or some varient).

    FFIV After Story: Calca has "Jive" (which is random).
    FFV: All characers can be a Blue Mage, and may have "Blue Magic" set when using another job as well.
    FFVI: Strago has "Lore". Gau's "Rage" is completely different than Blue Magic, as it replaces "Attack" and you lose control of him. Gau never learns any attack he uses.
    FFVII: Everyone can use the "Enemy Skill" materia.
    FFVIII: Quistis has "Blue Magic" as her Limit Break.
    FFIX: Quina has "Blue Magic".
    FFX: Kimahri has "Ronso Rage" as his Overdrive.
    FFX-2: The Gun Mage dressphere has "Blue Bullet".
    FFXI: Blue Mages have "Blue Magic".

    There's also a few other, none main series games as well.

    I'd also like to point out that the OP dumbed down how Blue Magic is learned. In some games you do learn it by taking a direct hit by the spell/ability, but in other games it's different. In FFVI Strago just has to be in the battle when the abilities is used, in FFVIII you have to use items on Quistis, in FFIX Quina eats enemies, and in FFX Kimahri has to use Lancet.
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 05-13-2016 at 01:44 AM.

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